frankzander

Can I turn it off? Tbh this TPM thingy doesn't solve any problem for me.

What happens I someone trains his image generation models with AI generated images? :-D

> the courts may say AI generated images do not enjoy copyright protection

I hope so.

What's your problem with GTK? I mean I like good UIs and this is what attracts me. So Ardour has a good looking UI (IMHO). How does the window toolkit impact you?

you might find this interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZndTAbjPqm0 - I think Paul talks a bit about the background of Ardour and it's history

I had the same thought

Music is disposable ... just today. Just take a listen at the most songs in charts ... senseless crap. At the end always better like this AI crap at least to my ear. Don't worry because AI would not replace a big part of music if ever. Maybe AI would be used for generating catchy hook lines but that's all. The end selection of what's catchy and what's boring will always do a human.

Not even that I think. Even background music has more purpose than AI generated one. But you are right ... some people may have a low threshold with being satisfied and hear this kind of music.

No really ... it sounds shitty. It's the same with images ... if a human would compose it a "story" or "intention" is behind the product. AI can't provide that because it's just a A without real I .

In Brave it works. FF not

I wonder if it's the same or similar with music making products or especially with this unbelievable amount of guitar effect pedals.

> Peanut butter, mayonnaise, beef jerky

But that's packed with fat calories as well and fat has a much higher energy density as carbohydrates. As an European I'm very very astonished over the size of the food portions in fast food restaurants in the US. If this portion size is the same on the diner table than it's not only sugar but a lot of non necessary calories. I don't think it's entirely caused by sugar but by a big surplus of calories in day to day food (combined with too little physical activity)

Or a Harley

because it's salad is a hell lot better in terms of environmental friendliness

Because of that day to day racism I'm often very angry even if I'm not affected by that. Racism is a big evil.

That's the whole point of this discussion. Art is artful and has an intend behind it and transports emotions. AI can't provide it because this thing is "only" a computer ... it doesn't live and will never (sorry to disappoint you future believing SciFi disciples ... I'm also a fan of SciFi but some things will not happen). I also have doubts if AI will anywhere in the far future have the abilities of birds within the size of a bird brain. So AI will do what machines do ... they calculate very fast and at least mixing up things with the help of learned patterns. To me this is all interesting to see but just hype and not art. It's generated image content. Art is different.

Maybe you should see this from a marketing POV. If you want to sell "Proteins easy to fry" you will probably fail. But if you sell "Vegan Steak" with the texture and like taste of a steak out of meat, you will have your customers. So the alternatives have no established name and naming it "meat" will make sense. And yes ... it's processed and no I think it's not healthy for day to day consumption (like coke) but once a week or month ... why not? Smoking (even passive) so most probably more dangerous ;)

In Germany the Rügenwalder brand was, at least for me, always associated with sausages. Since they changed to also produce meatless vegan products, they become almost omnipresent in every supermarket with vegan and vegetarian products. I personally like them and, in my opinion, the initial change of the direction was brave. My personal perception is, that Rügenwalder and LikeMeat (with some exceptions) do a great job. I think, the target customer isn't always the established vegan who also has sympathies for PETA work but the interested and health aware consumer who wants to reduce the overall meat consumption or the meat lover who is open to just try it out (because of interest).

I'm aware that this products are always creatures of food laboratories ... well done but somewhat artificial. But if you got an invitation to some BBQ event and don't have your own DIY sausages at hand, this products are convenient (yes I know peppers, zucchini and other vegetables are just fine to put it on a grill and taste good but the BBQ master must have some experience with it and it's sometimes a bit of a struggle to be well fed with that only ... for a man).

By the way ... I think the marketing of this traditional meat based sausage company Rugenwalder is just interesting. I think this model can also work for established fast-fashion brands which want to change to sustainable, fair paying product model ... not to change the world but to make it right and because the market wants it so

the intelligence of someone is foolishness in other eyes. Simpler people, as you call them, have often solutions for problems with which well educated people struggle with. So not looking down on someone is a good beginning for be more happy. :)

Because happiness isn't a mental skill. What makes you happy is try to have and keep peace with everyone and do good things, make presents to others, give and don't expect to get something back (you will but don't expect it). (it's the opposite you see nowadays in movies or series ;-)

It's about social connections and inter-human things ... not some skills you learn on universities but from loving and well raised parents.

Normal compost soil ;)

> Tech people sometimes need to be a bit more humble.

Not sometimes but very often IMHO and not only a bit but a huge amount of humbleness is needed.

Whatever way you choose to make it easy for you to do it ... if you like the satisfaction at the end it's evenly good like making the way to the end more joyful.

But it can be if you want :)

It's not about fake images trying to show reality but it's about images crafting something from reality and showing something unreal. The brain want to interpret it and fail. This fail drives me nuts.

Yes I assumed it from the first few words that's kind of a AI product.

I'm not anxious about it. It's just not pleasant to see. There are some painters like Dali (I assume Dall-E is not by accident) or Bosch who had created kinda similar "products" but to me they are interesting and fun to look at. The AI products are kinda useless creap, mashups without sense from dump machines and that's give me this wired feeling which makes me hate it.

TBH ... I absolute hate this AI generated strange images. Most folks are celebrate this technology but I don't know what it's really for other than confusing brains. I always ask myself "is this real" ... I don't like to ask myself if something is real or don't like to be confused. Is anyone else out there who feels the same?

"Well, the key to life is that we also need to do things that we find "boring", and that no amount of sugar-coating would make them appear fun to us." Sounds like a mother that doesn't want to argue about clearing the dish washer. The key thing is to learn that all boring things should and can have a playful funny side and if you can't find them than you must make yourself one. So clearing the dishwasher can be playful with dancing and singing or as a game. That's why google gamified the boring crowd source activity of repairing the local search. The key is to cheat yourself a little bit.

That's also interesting. I know that not everybody have an eye for style like I have. TBH I wreck my nerves if an interface looks like some ugly pile of sh* (no I do not mean the CDE thing). I do not agree with " Looking pretty is for art and games." because if you take a look at some commercial audio plugins for Cubase/ProTools/whatever you'll see that they always look good, fancy and please the eye. They wouldn't invest any money if looking pretty is only for "art and games" and a "simple" formular based interface is everything the customer needs.

The remaining points you listed are good point's I'll think over. Thx