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Building open-source, privacy-first agentic OS -- browserOS.com
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felarof··on Ask HN: What Arc/Dia features should we prioritize?
We are adding command palette, that should be available soon!

What commands do you want in command palette, I can think of:

- tab, bookmark, history search

- would you want command palette with AI features? -- like "group my tabs", "close all tabs but this one", "summarize this page"

felarof··on Ask HN: What Arc/Dia features should we prioritize?
> One of the things I want from a browser is to fade to the background and to expose those applications as natively as possible at the OS level (e.g. I want to be able to put browser-based applications into my dock without having to download special electron wrappers for them.)

This would be awesome, thank you for sharing your feature request!

I loved the older version of Android which used to expose very single chrome tab as an app, that was a great UX as well.

Will add this to our list!

felarof··on Ask HN: What Arc/Dia features should we prioritize?
Thank you, this is a very well put vision/feature list!

We will prioritize this! I miss the above too -- vertical tabs, folders, command palette!

felarof··on Ask HN: What Arc/Dia features should we prioritize?
I used to use Evernote reader mode before, which did something like this!

Totally see the value. If you get a minute, please add it to our github issue, we will prioritize.

felarof··on Ask HN: What Arc/Dia features should we prioritize?
> Reliable and encrypted sync is important.

Thank you, we will add this to our list!

Curious, what problem would the sync solve for you? Is it to sync between browser instances on different computers or do you want to use sync for cloud storage of history, bookmarks, etc?

felarof··on Ask HN: What Arc/Dia features should we prioritize?
I actually chat/Q&A with web pages quite often.

Examples:

- If I'm writing any email in gmail, I paste the enter email thread into chatGPT, claude and take its help with rephrasing or fixing grammatical mistakes

- I use chat to summarize HN threads too.

Definitely curious if the above use-cases are problems for you or not.

BTW when I want to do Q&A, I use LLM chat feature in BrowserOS -- which opens chatGPT, gemini, claude in split-view on any web page and I quickly copy paste the context using shortcuts.

felarof··on Ask HN: What Arc/Dia features should we prioritize?
Got it.

For ad-blocking, we are already working on integrating Adblock-rust, should be available soon! https://github.com/brave/adblock-rust

felarof··on Ask HN: What Arc/Dia features should we prioritize?
> There is no analogous problem AI can solve for me in the browser unless websites dramatically change how they interact with requests from AI.

Curious: Does summarizing, Q&A with web pages a problem for you?

felarof··on Ask HN: What Arc/Dia features should we prioritize?
Got it! We already support local models.

Do you use chrome extensions? Were you able to import the extensions you use into Zen?

felarof··on Ask HN: What Arc/Dia features should we prioritize?
> It didn't even know what year it was, it's just a gimmick.

I understand. But we are still in early stages of product-market-fit here, AI agent integration with browsers should get lot better.

Thank you! We are adding vertical tabs already, we will look into adding persistent tabs.

Regarding UI, we want to put a fresh coat on top of chromium. But building a new UI layer (like Arc) would involve throwing away a lot of chromium code and I think that comes with its own cost, like sacrificing security updates from Google (which I feel The Browser Company also realized and started to invest when building Dia).

felarof··on Ask HN: What Arc/Dia features should we prioritize?
> What does automation have to do with the number of tabs? Also _should_ it _just_ work? Do we really need to automate consumption behavior now?

Our agent can also help with tab closing, grouping, etc. We want the entire browser experience to be improved by AI.

We will have semantic search over browser history, bookmarks as well soon.

> What am I missing here, has anyone asked for this? Is anyone actually finding these AI browsers useful? Personally I want Arc, not Dia.

I understand where you are coming from. The use cases that agent can independently handle are quite trivial right now. But we strongly believe as LLMs improve you will be able to have agents automate larger tasks. You might be able to show the agent some task you do and it learns to do that without your supervision.

What do you mean by you want Arc? What features? -- vertical tabs, spaces, shortcuts? We would love to understand!

felarof··on Launch HN: Slashy (YC S25) – AI that connects to apps and does tasks
You should make Slashy a chrome extension for BrowserOS (https://github.com/browseros-ai/BrowserOS), then it can read/extract Linkedin using user credentials :)
felarof··on Ask HN: What Arc/Dia features should we prioritize?
Yep, we are enabling this as well. I think it'll take a while for google chrome to roll it out.
felarof··on Ask HN: What Arc/Dia features should we prioritize?
Hmm, wdym?
felarof··on Atlassian is acquiring The Browser Company
We are in early stages, but as a big Arc fan myself, we want to bring build this feature.

If you can raise a github issue, we can get to work asap https://github.com/browseros-ai/BrowserOS

felarof··on Atlassian is acquiring The Browser Company
I was a big fan of Arc too, they should at least open sourced it after abandoning.

Anyways, now we are building BrowserOS, an open-source alternative to Dia -- https://github.com/browseros-ai/BrowserOS

felarof··on Claude for Chrome
I'm wondering if they are using vanilla claude or if they are using a fine-tuned version of claude specifically for browser use.

RL fine-tuning LLMs can have pretty amazing results. We did GRPO training of Qwen3:4B to do the task of a small action model at BrowserOS (https://www.browseros.com/) and it was much better than running vanilla Claude, GPT.

felarof··on Claude for Chrome
They probably wanted to start collect training data for their computer use models.
felarof··on Claude for Chrome
This is super cool!

If a "deep research" like agent is available directly in your browser, would that be useful?

We are building this at BrowserOS!

felarof··on Claude for Chrome
> The LLM should not be seeing the raw DOM in its context window, but a highly simplified and compact version of it.

Precisely! There is already something accessibility tree that Chromium rendering engine constructs which is a semantically meaningful version of the DOM.

This is what we use at BrowserOS.com

felarof··on Claude for Chrome
Just dumping the raw DOM into the LLM context is brutal on token usage. We've seen pages that eat up 60-70k tokens when you include the full DOM plus screenshots, which basically maxes out your context window before you even start doing anything useful.

We've been working on this exact problem at https://github.com/browseros-ai/BrowserOS. Instead of throwing the entire DOM at the model, we hook into Chromium's rendering engine to extract a cleaner representation of what's actually on the page. Our browser agents work with this cleaned-up data, which makes the whole interaction much more efficient.

felarof··on Show HN: BrowserOS -- browser agents with GPT-OSS, local llms
we've tried Qwen3, Llama4, gemma3. But gpt-oss has been the best performing model so far.
felarof··on I want everything local – Building my offline AI workspace
You should definitely checkout BrowserOS! -- https://github.com/browseros-ai/BrowserOS
felarof··on I want everything local – Building my offline AI workspace
You should definitely checkout BrowserOS! -- https://github.com/browseros-ai/BrowserOS
felarof··on Show HN: Kitten TTS – 25MB CPU-Only, Open-Source TTS Model
We can integrate this into the browser directly!

-- browserOS.com

felarof··on Show HN: Open source alternative to Perplexity Comet
Yeah, decided to change the name to avoid any troubles. Also, previous name was hard to pronounce :)

Thank you for the feedback. Would love to chat more on discord (https://discord.gg/YKwjt5vuKr) and help you with your use-cases! we are shipping daily and improving things fast, agent should get much better in a few days.

> There's a Chrome extension that lets you use your iCloud passwords in Chrome and it doesn't work

Will check it out! We definitely want to make onboarding and password mgmt much easier!

felarof··on Show HN: Open source alternative to Perplexity Comet
Thank you!
felarof··on Show HN: Open source alternative to Perplexity Comet
Thank you for the support!

So far our patches have not conflicted with chromium updates. But there are viable ways to do patching and keep up with the pace (Brave Browser has pretty example infra setup to do this).

felarof··on Show HN: Open source alternative to Perplexity Comet
Sell licenses for enterprise browser
felarof··on Show HN: Open source alternative to Perplexity Comet
Thank you for your support! Yes, we want to do some cool things that we can't do as extension.

C++ APIs for dom tree, a11y. We eventually want to ship a small fine-tuned LLM and package with browser binary too.

Just getting started!

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