I hope they implemented this in some smarter way than just a system prompt.
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I hope they implemented this in some smarter way than just a system prompt.
Yes! This exactly, with o3 you could ask your question imprecisely or word it badly/ambiguously and it would figure out what you meant, with GPT5 I have had several cases just in the last few hours where it misunderstands the question and requires refinement.
> It was related to software architecture, so supposedly something it should be good at. But for some reason it interpreted me as asking from an end-user perspective instead of a developer of the service, even though it was plenty clear to any human - and other models - that I meant the latter.
For me I was using o3 in daily life like yesterday we were playing a board game so I wanted to ask GPT5 Thinking to clarify a rule, I used the ambiguous prompt with a picture of a card’s draw 1 card power and asked “Is this from the deck or both?” (From the deck or from the board). It responded by saying the card I took a picture of was from the game wingspan’s deck instead of clarifying the actual power on the card (o3 would never).
I’m not looking forward to how much time this will waste on my weekend coding projects this weekend.
So far I haven’t been impressed with GPT5 thinking but I can’t concretely say why yet. I am thinking of comparing the same prompt side by side between o3 and GPT5 thinking.
Also just from my first few hours with GPT5 Thinking I feel that it’s not as good at short prompts as o3 e.g instead of using a big xml or json prompt I would just type the shortest possible phrase for the task e.g “best gpu for home LLM inference vs cloud api.”
Actually when I ordered through it I paid $45 instead of $60 via DoorDash/Uber Eats but the order was delivered by Uber.
The reason why I think this version will work is because it’s the same level of convenience in a centralized mobile app so single payment method, single portal to browse restaurants etc.
(I have no association with this company I just was looking into this last week on the train)
There’s huge room for disruption in this model when a $12 chipotle order costs the consumer $30 after higher menu prices + delivery fees + tip.
More money is spent at most of these companies coordinating work than actually doing work.
Another place this can be useful is for allowing customers to extend a local software with their own custom code. So instead of having to use say MCP to extend your AI tool they can just implement a certain request structure via CGI.
Or at least thats what I got from it correct me if I am wrong rockeet.
The most expensive parts of fixing a bug are discovering/diagnosing/triaging the bug, cleaning up corrupted records, and customer communication. If you discover a bug in development or even better while you are coding the function or during a code review you get to bypass triaging, customer calls, escalations, RCAs, etc. At a SaaS company with enterprise customers each of those steps involves multiple meetings with your Support, Account Manager, Senior Engineer, Product Manager, Engineering Manager, Department Manager, sometimes Legal or a Security Engineer and then finally the actual coder. So of course if you can resolve an issue (at a modern SaaS company) during development it can be 10-100x less expensive just because of how much bureaucracy is involved in running a large scale enterprise SaaS company.
It also brings up the interesting side effect of companies adopting non-deterministic coding (AI Code) in that now bugs that could have been discovered during design/development by a human engineer while writing the code can now leak all the way into prod.
All that being said I still use (and like) Rails, currently comparing Phoenix/Elixir to Rails 8 in a side project. But I use typescript w/ Node and Bun in my day job.
I’m curious if you can suggest a happy medium between curl-impersonate on VPS (dirt cheap) vs residential proxy ($8/gb)?
Personally I’m not trying to hit any of those common sites.
Usually you only need some subset of the data per page load if you invest some time looking at dev tools you can probably find the API call you need and save yourself a few MB.
They all offer scraping APIs now too that can be cheaper for certain use cases where you only need a subset of the data that is actually loaded. Like $1.3 per 1k requests: https://oxylabs.io/products/scraper-api/web/pricing or $1 per 1k: https://brightdata.com/pricing/web-scraper
This is good for self hosters and devs who will be able to run near SOTA models like QwQ locally. I’m near the point where I’m going to cancel my ChatGPT Plus and Claude subscription.
If you’re not already trying to self host, build your own local agents and build your own MCPs/Tools I would encourage you to try it (simple stack: ollama, pydanticAI, fastmcp, QwQ 32B, Llama 3.2 3B). If you don’t have a fancy GPU or M1+ try out QwQ on Groq or Flash 2.0 Lite with the Gemini API, it’s super cheap and fast and they are basically equivalent (if not better) than the ChatGPT you were paying for 16 months ago.
Since you’re a student most of the providers/clouds offer student credits and you can also get loads of credits from hackathons.
I think the 32b models are actually good enough that I might stop paying for ChatGPT plus and Claude.
I get around 20 tok/second on my m3 and I can get 100 tok/second on smaller models or quantized. 80-100 tok/second is the best for interactive usage if you go above that you basically can’t read as fast as it generates.
I also really like the QwQ reaoning model, I haven’t gotten around to try out using locally hosted models for Agents and RAG especially coding agents is what im interested in. I feel like 20 tok/second is fine if it’s just running in the background.
Anyways would love to know others experiences, that was mine this weekend. The way it’s going I really dont see a point in paying, I think on-device is the near future and they should just charge a licensing fee like DB provider for enterprise support and updates.
If you were paying $20/mo for ChatGPT 1 year ago, the 32b models are basically at that level but slightly slower and slightly lower quality but useful enough to consider cancelling your subscriptions at this point.
Other than that looks very cool, reading through the code now. A lot of these projects very heavily lean on Browser Use.
I’m guessing it’s under 10k.
I also didn’t see tokens per second numbers.
There isn’t really a much more productive web dev setup than Rails + your favorite LLM tool. Will take time to earn Gen Z back to Rails though and away from Python/TS or Go/Rust.
I gave up on using GCP even though the products like BigQuery are way better just because I got burned too many times like with the Google Domains -> Squarespace transition.
I’m thinking of switching back to a bare metal provider now like Vultr or DO (would love to know what people are using these days I haven’t used bare metal providers since ~2012).
Also, completely unrelated does anyone know what the best scraping proxy is these days for side projects (data journalism, archiving etc.)?
Like all the people surprised by Deepseek when it has been clear for the last 2 years there is no moat in foundation models and all the value is in 1) high quality data that becomes more valuable as the internet fills with AI junk 2) building the UX on top that will make specific tasks faster.