eightyone

Yeah. iCloud.com is a joke. They are using a native-esque UI/UX in the web browser and it just doesn't work. Until something drastic changes at Apple, Google will forever have superior web services.

I'll have to use the UI on a device to determine if I like it or not. All the blue, pink, and white reminds me of Flickr. I'm disappointed we didn't get custom default apps or the ability to set a custom search engine. I want to use DuckDuckGo with Safari.

I don't believe this at all.

Which is rather humorous considering how articulate he was in the video of him being interviewed by Glenn Greenwald. You can tell immediately he's not your stereotypical drop out.

I wish there was a site to connect open-source projects who need better UIs with the designers over at Dribbble. On Dribbble you see a lot of UI concepts that never come to fruition. What if we could convince some of them to help build a better PGP UI? After all, real world applications look much better on a resume than concepts.

I'm not a lawyer, but I believe they declared only part of FISA unconstitutional. The part they declared unconstitutional happens to be the primary crux of the legal argument for PRISM.

I don't understand how you can have secret courts either. It's a perversion of what this country was founded upon.

We should all trust James Clapper after this, you guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRhjgynfhag

It's my understanding that the secret court ruled the primary legal justification for PRISM (FISA Section 702) as unconstitutional. The Justice Department is trying to keep that ruling as secret as possible. [1] So, really, what would they do?

[1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/06/government-says-secret...

If they didn't receive any, I assume they can disclose that. I'm really not sure what this means, to be honest. Was anyone speculating that Google never received a FISA request of some sort? Does anyone know how common it is to send out such request to a company?

I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think that's correct. I believe they have to abide by the FISC ruling until a higher court rules in their favor. Obviously they don't want to take it to a higher court because then the public would find out. There's a reason why they are trying to keep the documents of the ruling a secret. Any lawyers here feel free to chime in.

I've been thinking about this lately. Keeping software leak-free is pretty easy compared to hardware. They have shields on the product that limit the viewing angle of the display. Also, only certain employees will have access to the final build, so if any of them leaked screenshots or what have you, it could be easily traced back to the leaker.

Take a look at this comment of mine.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5850851

This is false. The FISC found the NSA spying to be unconstitonal.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/06/government-says-secret...

"In a rare public filing in the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC), the Justice Department today urged continued secrecy for a 2011 FISC opinion that found the National Security Agency's surveillance under the FISA Amendments Act to be unconstitutional. Significantly, the surveillance at issue was carried out under the same controversial legal authority that underlies the NSA’s recently-revealed PRISM program." [1]

[1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/06/government-says-secret...

Point number 3 is irrelevant because if the companies implicated are involved with PRISM, they aren't allowed to tell the truth legally.

I found another tweet by Glenn saying that we won't see the full redacted presentation because "it contains very specific technical NSA means for collection - we'd probably be prosecuted if we did."

I also found another tweet by him that says (in reply to someone) " There are all sorts of secrets I have I'm not publishing - it's public interest v. harm analysis at the heart of journalism."

[1] https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/343454484917280770?p=v

[2] https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/343453682387542016?p=v

I hope he's making a good judgement call on not releasing the technical information. A lot of people are already writing this presentation off as fake and meaningless.

I haven't tried them yet, but a lot of former Linode users seem to be loving DigitalOcean. [1]

[1] https://www.digitalocean.com

According to a new slide released by the Guardian, PRISM does give direct access. [1]

[1] http://guardiannews.com/world/2013/jun/08/nsa-prism-server-c...

I'm not sure what Glenn said in regards to the Manning case, but wouldn't that be different because in this instance Glenn is the person who broke the story and has the source? He's casually mentioned on Twitter and in his articles that there's more information coming out. So I reckon we will see.

"In a rare public filing in the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC), the Justice Department today urged continued secrecy for a 2011 FISC opinion that found the National Security Agency's surveillance under the FISA Amendments Act to be unconstitutional. Significantly, the surveillance at issue was carried out under the same controversial legal authority that underlies the NSA’s recently-revealed PRISM program." [1]

[1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/06/government-says-secret...

Why the hell should we trust James Clapper after this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRhjgynfhag

I have a hard time Glenn Greenwald would stake his reputation on this without having more concrete proof. I think that there is still a lot more information to be let out. They are slowly leaking more and more every day so that the story stays in the news. It's a clever tactic. I'm curious why Greenwald isn't going to release the "highly detailed technical materials on how they eavesdrop" that he claimed he had on Twitter. [1] Perhaps it would give up his source? Or maybe it just contains too much national security information or whatever? I'm not sure.

[1] https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/343470800784982016

Ninja edit: Also as another commenter pointed out, that $20-million figure could be for just one specific part of the program or what have you.

I plan on setting up a cloud system using BitTorrent Sync, Owncloud, and a Raspberry Pi. There's a great article on it, if you're interested. [1]

[1] http://blog.bittorrent.com/2013/05/23/how-i-created-my-own-p...;

I don't think that Glenn Greenwald would stake his reputation on just a PowerPoint. He claims on Twitter that he has "highly detailed technical NSA materials on how they eavesdrop". [1] Though I'm not sure if that is a reference to the telecom spying or Internet spying.

[1] https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/343470800784982016

Obviously, he allegedly has this material. I tried to put that in the title, but I hit the character limit.

Imagine if the CEOs came out with something vague aluding that PRISM is exactly what we think it is. This would hurt profits and would most likely upset stock holders. I'm really not sure if this would intertwine with any sort of profit maximization laws or what have you, though.

What you're talking about is referred to as a warrant canary. There's a nice Wikipedia entry on the subject, if you're interested. [1]

Check out [2] for an example of one.

Perhaps we should be pressuring companies like Dropbox (whom was implicated as "coming soon" in the documents leaked) to implement such a system.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_canary

[2] http://www.rsync.net/resources/notices/canary.txt

Edit: Now thinking about it, Dropbox was probably already hit with a request. Maybe we should focus on other services that may be of future interest to the government?

We pretty much already have confirmation that PRISM exists. [1] It's a little funny all of these companies expect us to believe that none of them are involved.

[1] http://gizmodo.com/the-government-responds-to-the-prism-spyi...

It's a part of the Patriot Act. This is from a Wikipedia article on a warrant canary, which is a clever method devised to alert customers of such warrants indirectly. [1]

> Such subpoenas, including those covered under the USA Patriot Act, provide criminal penalties for revealing the existence of the warrant to any third party, including the service provider's customers.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_canary

I deleted both my iCloud and Dropbox account for starters. I'm currently looking into hosting, specifically PRQ (Hosted Piratebay and Wikileaks for sometime)[1] and Bahnhof (The datacenter that is in a mountain. They hosted Wikileaks for sometime, as well.) [2]

[1] http://prq.se [2] http://www.bahnhof.net

I read somewhere that you can find several VPN services that are based out of the same location of Bahnhof. I don't have much information on it, though.

In terms of email, obviously PGP.

I haven't decided yet if I'm switching from Mac OS X to some form of Linux. I was going to buy a new MacBook, but I'm really on the fence now.