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The doctor talks to the patient, does an exam, then formulates and discusses the plan with the patient. The whole conversation is recorded and converted to a note after the patient has left the room.
The diagnosis and plan was already worked out while talking to the patient. The ai has to convert that conversation into a note. The ai cant influence the plan because the plan was already discussed and the patient is gone.
Overall, I was quite impressed. It definitely made writing notes much faster, which all doctors hate to do. While it had some problems with where to put key pieces of information (like putting details from the physical exam back in the history), it only took 5 mins of rearrangement after the visit to complete the note.
For simple diagnoses, it does a decent job coming up with the assessment and plan, probably because all the simple diagnoses were in the training set. For more complex ones though, it needs to be exactly dictated by the doctor. I can see this being used very well in primary care.
Edit: When I said “coming up with an assessment and plan” I mean documenting the assessment and plan based on the ai’s recorded conversation with the patient. The conversation with the patient is meant to be understandable. The “assessment and plan” documentation on the other hand is jargony and meant to be read by other physicians.
This book describes how hundreds of people tried (and failed) to cure cancer over *millennia*. It spends a lot of time talking about how the modern approach, which works surprisingly well, was developed by Sidney Farber and others through great effort and a lot of good science.
My feeling when reading this book was similar to reading about the making of the atomic bomb- what happens when you put a bunch of smart people in a box and tell them to solve a problem. However, this time it didn't work nearly as well, because as we found out, curing cancer is an order of magnitude harder than building an atomic bomb. Building the bomb required new engineering, while curing cancer requires new science and new engineering.
1. Cut a large grape (1.5cm diameter) partially in half, leaving just a sliver of skin connecting the two halves.
2. Dry the cut sides by dabbing with a paper towel.
3. Place the grape halves cut side down on a Pyrex dish. Keep the turntable in the microwave (important, since microwaves have hotspots). Place the dish with the grape so that the grape orbits inside the microwave.
4. Microwave on high for 30s.
If you don’t hear a hum and see sparks within 10 seconds, you may have too large a grape. In that case you can try splitting the grape into two quarters, connected by a thin sliver of skin. Don’t forget to dry all the cut sides!
Side note: the “1 in 7” claim from this paper is based on a straw-poll of N=12 existing forensic metascientific papers. I find it somewhat ironic that the author makes some strong conclusions based on this number which to me, though very plausible, is itself lacking scientific rigor.
Joshua Barretto has been working on a GBA port of Super Mario 64 with entire 3D levels, characters, and movements. In my opinion just incredible work:
Scoble can be heard in the video asking one of the robots, “Hey Optimus, how much of you is AI?”
The robot, or whoever was controlling it, seemed to scramble for an answer, saying “I can’t disclose just how much. That’s something you’ll have to find out later.”
“But some or none?” Scoble asked with a laugh.
“I would say, it might be some. I’m not going to confirm, but it might be some,” the robot responded.
To answer your question, there have been an abundance of epidemiological studies showing that the drop in blood pressure is worth the slightly increased heart rate (assuming you’ve been diagnosed with hypertension). The main benefit is the drop in stroke risk, atherosclerosis, and kidney damage, even despite the fact that your heart has to beat faster.
A better one is seeing my grad-school friends with zero background in comp-sci or math, presenting their cell-biology results with AlphaFold in conferences and at lab meetings. They are not protein folding people either- just molecular biologists trying to present more evidence of docking partners, functional groups in their pathway of interest.
It reminds me of when Crispr came out. There were ways to edit DNA before Crispr, but its was tough to do right and required specialized knowledge. After Crispr came out, even non-specialists like me in tangential fields could get started.
I’m in biotech academia and it has changed things already. Yes the protein folding problem isn’t “solved” but no problem in biology ever is. Comparing to previous bio/chem Nobel winners like Crispr, touch receptors, quantum dots, click chemistry, I do think AlphaFold already has reached sufficient level of impact.
People used to mention medical devices as another specialization but I think nowadays the embedded design side of things is not the “hard part” and so it’s less lucrative.
The Alzheimer's and Parkinson's fields are too easy to fake, and too difficult to replicate. The new ideas are only ~20 years old. Big pharma companies are understandably wary of published papers.
When people say "trust the science", they often refer to things like masks, and antibiotics, and vaccines. That science is hundreds of years old and have been replicated thousands of times.
TL;DR: Some science should absolutely be trusted, some shouldn't. It's not surprising that you can't make blanket statements on a superfield ranging from germ theory to cold fusion.
I do like the idea of institutions giving tenure to people with results that have stood the test of time, but again, there is no incentive to do so. Institutions want superstar faculty, they care less about whether the results are true.
The only real incentive that I think can be targeted is still grant money, but I would love to be proved wrong.
The situation is similar to the "Market for lemons" in cars: if the market is polluted with lemons (fake papers), you are disincentivized to publish a plum (real results), since no one can tell it's not faked. You are instead incentivized to take a plum straight to industry and not disseminate it at all. Pharma companies are already known to closely guard their most promising data/results.
Similar to the lemon market in cars, I think the only solution is government regulation. In fact, it would be a lot easier than passing lemon laws since most labs already get their funding from the government! Prior retractions should have significant negative impact on grant scores. This would not only incentivize labs, but would also incentivize institutions to hire clean scientists since they have higher grant earning potential.
> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
I personally appreciate that political news is limited on HN. It's reasonable to create communities where things stay technical, just like many people don't discuss politics in the workplace.
While this is clearly an announcement for investors (see how they bring up the Transformers paper again), I fail to understand the value add for Youtube content.
Just like scrolling through AI generated Facebook photos is not engaging, so too will be the glut of AI generated Youtube shorts.
I'm not sure what the popularity of these different CAD softwares are. I've seen quite a few hobbyists use OnShape recently, and a few people use OpenScad. I don't think I've seen another FreeCad user in real life though.
It would've been nice to not assume only one lottery winner. People tend to pick numbers that are meaningful for them: birthdays, favorite numbers, lucky numbers. Thus it actually significantly increases your EV if you pick unusual numbers, which is not reflected here.
I want more info about how novel these proteins are.
In the whitepaper they mention that they are novel compared to other in silico design techniques, but to my knowledge other binders to VEGF and Covid spike protein exist and would already be found in the PDB database that Deepmind trained the model on.
This is not to minimize the results- if the history of ML is anything to go by, even if AlphaProteo does not currently beat the best affinity found by in vitro screens, I do not doubt that it soon will!
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I loved the paragraph about feeling "scammed" though I would've called it being "faked". The AI doctor can never use the stethoscope around her neck. She is hijacking totems of professionalism to appear more comforting, without the capabilities to back them up. The fake veterinarian can suggest a diagnosis but can't actually treat anyone. The real-estate chatbot cannot try to help a domestic violence victim.
Maybe that's why I interact with AI assistants the same way I interact with psycopaths. I'm comfortable interacting with them in jobs where the law will incentivize them to behave well. But for things like teaching, or medicine, or personal matters, I prefer someone with empathy.
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