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Repost & Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8279626

I think this problem does exist for graduates of bootcamps, but more for any graduates of universities.

We've been working with companies to provide technical mentorship and we've found that generally those who went through some of the top bootcamps actually are more "successful" at being careful with what they are doing since many of them come from other positions in the industry (former PMs, QAs, etc) and are well aware of the impact that they are making.

Interesting that Balaji Srinivasan talked about this concept of Silicon Valley as the enemy at startup school last year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOubCHLXT6A

I think there is definite misinformation in this thread. You can definitely do it assuming you have a lot of grit and passion.

It took me roughly 2 months of intense work to go from being a middle school teacher to getting my first software engineering job in SF without any bootcamps. We currently run a one-to-one remote program that bring people from 0 to software engineer with part-time commitment in months to a year.

I would love to jump on a call with you to figure out what you've tried and tips on how to find your next job. My contact info is in my profile.

Contact info in profile

Help me out: Need to find educators (who happen to know how to code) - My co-founder and I run a 1-to-1 mentorship program turning people into software developers (heavy emphasis on JS + frameworks) need help finding more instructors. We're looking for people passionate about education/love to teach who happen to know how to code.

How I can help: 1) Learn to Program Advice - Was a middle school teacher turned software engineer so I can help people get started on their programming track over a Google hangout consultation (won't sell you anything, just advice) 2) Business Idea Discussion - Love helping out any entrepreneurs talk about their business ideas/models, we bootstrapped ourselves, worked only part-time, and made revenue from day 1 3) High touch sales - All our sales are high touch sales $5-10k++ if you're trying to do high touch sales I can definitely share pointers/advice

Last year this time I was a middle school science teacher with little to no technical background. Now I'm a JavaScript software engineer and I teach others how to become software engineers in my free time. Some common trends I notice among my clients who are successful:

1) Grit - the ability the struggle through problems and dig through many rabbit holes/frustrations

2) Passion - true passion for technology and trends to keep up with latest frameworks/languages/etc and patterns- generally (but not necessarily) is the first step for grit

3) Problem Solving Frameworks - the ability to create frameworks for yourself to solve programming issues including debugging, asking questions, talking to a duck, etc.

Feel free to e-mail (in profile) me and I can set up an intro advice call with your friend.

Day 1. We do 1-to-1 mentorship for web development helping our clients go from 0 to fully functioning Backbone/Angular/Rails/Node apps- designed for people who have time to learn on nights and weekends. Hosted free workshops and utilized our network to get clients. Now our pipeline is mostly from internal referrals from clients.

There's a couple of libraries that help you implement this. http://ricostacruz.com/nprogress/ is one.

Shameless plug. We are trying to solve this. We started off by doing 1-to-1 web development tutoring bringing clients from 0 to backbone apps & beyond.

Recently, we got connected with two top CS students from "mid-tier" schools who were about to join large corporations in technology consulting roles. We were able to place them in some awesome startups in SF. And we were thrilled to have such a huge impact on the trajectory of their careers. We want to continue to do this.

If you're interested in hiring top CS students, teaching web development, or if you're a current CS student please e-mail me. david@techcareerhq.com

Why go for four years?

I loved my college experience and I found that network I built was awesome. If I were to do it again though I would probably go to CC for two years then transfer to the college of my choice to offset the cost.

I would also look for freelance/part-time remote work during my time throughout my college career.

This is making the assumption that a sample size of 30 kids in one school year doesn't have anomalies that will skew the average and that the testing for reading levels such as the DRAs are foolproof?

Relevant article: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7030778

I think the author is spot on. I think the idea of firing all teachers to get the results you want undermines the profession as a whole and I really appreciate his analogy to firing the "bottom 10%" of programmers. There is just so much more a teacher has to do to reach "success", especially when dealing with low-income communities, students with disabilities, or even different levels of aptitude/learning styles. I don't see teachers replacing software with the current solutions.

Credentials: I'm a former TFA teacher turned software engineer and I tutor web development in 1-to-1 sessions on nights/weekends.

Hipchat needs to do this.

There's an app for this. Dollarbird - https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dollarbird-personal-finance/... it does exactly that for me. It does not tie to my bank account though it's all manual input (but you can schedule in recurring payments/income), which is actually good for me because I dislike miscategorizations

I really enjoyed the startup engineering course pretty beginner- gets into node. https://www.coursera.org/course/startup

Data? You mean small focused charter schools that are opt-in so inherently all the students at least have an advocate to fight for them are doing better than the regular classroom where there are students with and without advocates? There is huge bias in small, focused charter schools because you're dealing with kids who all have someone who cares enough for them to switch schools and their success is not an indication of anything.

There is a wide range of charter schools but just like the public education system a ton of them are terrible and even have huge scandals. There are a few bright spots, but it's overshadowed by the biases they hold, the excessive focus on useless tests, and financial corruption found in some schools.

Did not mean to be condescending I have a lot of friends at charter schools (teaching) and I just don't see this as any type of real solution.

As a former middle school science teacher in a low income school I believe the author has this wrong. The education system has so many complex issues that throwing more money at it or "adjusting a teacher-tenure framework" is not revolutionary and should not be praised. There are many districts who have taken these steps already including the one I previously worked at.

IMHO, there is no silver bullet, but there needs to focus on welfare, poverty, and long-term investments in our society. Better welfare support, pre-natal support, etc. In terms of teaching there needs to be a dramatic cultural shift in how we view teachers which can happen only through increased barrier to entry and more autonomy.

I was shocked as to how terrible teachers were treated and viewed and how so many people have it so wrong when it comes to education, which is why I left the profession to become a software engineer. It is one of the few professions where everyone seems to be an expert on and knows solutions for the industry as a whole without ever being a part of it from the side of a teacher or administrator.

I agree it was probably redundant; however, I was the first person other than OP to upvote the post and comment on it. I thought it was a good read, didn't want it to get buried, so upvoted and left a brief comment. Will refrain from doing the commenting next time.

enjoyed the read