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Yet somehow you continue to respond. Ironic.

>the [nuclear] football lucy was holding [until we axed the whole department of energy]

The idea of spheres of influnce is far older than Dugin sure, but you are not considring that the tactics being deployed are consistent with Dugin, and support the overall strategy outlined by Dugin, in service of goals listed by Dugin.

I think it is safe to say that the west is experiencing Duginism.

Just stop. No evidence presented will satisfy you. Right wing misinformation warfare has been going on since at least Rush Limbaugh.

The post you are responding to has effectively and accurately rebutted the post it is answering, which claimed that the media complaing about Trump's EOs is a new thing, despite having been done be prior presidents.

Wait if you like, just dont hold your breath.

"Benefit of the doubt" is what some were gaslighted into when Musk threw a Nazi salute.

When you attempt to gaslight the entirety of the planet that hard, you get your "Benefit of the Doubt" card revoked.

I am making two claims:

1. Not all arguments suffer from misinformation on both sides.

2. The political right uses misinformation as a weapon at a scale that dwarfs that of the political left. Your single example does not counter that argument.

Of course there is waste. Nothing runs with 100% efficiency.

You claim a huge scale of fraud, "multiple hundreds of billions of dollars" which we can bound as

200/7000 - 900/7000

Or something roughly in the range of 3-12%.

So, not exactly invisible. Probably pretty findable.

Where is the evidence of these "multiple hundreds of billions of dollars"? If you are going to go about it from individual fraudulent SS recipient upwards, you will be looking for fraud forever. A liftetime of SS is, what, $100,000? So, like 0.00005% of the amount of fraud you claim?

If this is how DOGE is going about it, IT WOULD BE THE LEAST FUCKING EFFICIENT GOVERNMENT PROGRAM EVER.

This is not how you find fraud. This is not how you audit. This is a smash and grab job, orchestrated by the most wealthy human and most powerful elected official on the planet.

This is NOT democracy. This is Autocracy.

>Each side of every argument is full of misinformation, intentionally or not.

This is just silly information, and is used to sow resignation and demean actual and valid arguments.

There are plenty of arguments and forums where misinformation is treated disdainfully, as it should be. HN used to be one of them, but everything anti trump and musk seems to get brigaded, rather than debated.

I will point out that it is predominantly one side in American politics using misinformation as a weapon. Its the side that brought us "teach the controverry" instead of accepting the scientific reality of evolution. Its the side that made it illegal for the CDC and ATF to do studies of firearms. Its the side that claims to be anti- politics in science while at the very same time politicizing science.

Your statement benefits the side that doesnt have truth on its side, and is therefore harmful.

"Falling" according to a literal shit posing car salesman

SV produces tacit fascists.

Poe's law

Because the WH no longer deals with legacy media.

I think the marketplace of ideas is showing that the HN community has not had enough of the discussion, because when these get reposted after being flagged, there is yet more discussion!

You are free to not participate if you prefer. Let those of us who wish to, continue.

Free speech absolutism, right?

Right?

?

It does seem quite implicating that both Musk and Trump have had multiple reported private calls with Putin. I dont recall other ex presidents meeting with Putin so frequently.

Missing dossiers of Russian Intel from Mar-a-Lago...which of course we never got to hear the full story of thanks to Judge Cannon and SCOTUS.

This is so on the nose it would be rejected if someone wrote it as a novel or film.

The would suggest it is even more important a topic, no?

You do realize that ideas can be spread by other means than face to face conversation, right?

Your argument is super goofy.

David Foster Wallace is my favorite author, and I've never even met the guy!

It is as though the community wants to discuss this, but bad actors keep shutting down the conversation.

This is Russia driven. Its right out of Aleksandr Dugin's playbook for Russian political dominance:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

>The lack of effective performance management in the federal workforce. >Resulting in poor service provision and wasteful allocation of taxpayer funds.

Alleged. Not proven, alleged.

>No large private sector workforce would have gotten away with such broken processes.

What broken processes? You havent shown them to exist.

Large companies are built to maximixe profit. Governments are not, so why should their organizational choices be similar?

Government work is literally goods and services for the population.

This is some serious 1984 war is peace shit.

>this problem

What problem?

The problem of how people are fired? You dont fix that specific problem by firing everyone!

Somw other problem? Show us evidence that there was a problem, before you fire. That's how you do it in a democracy.

A page straight from Aleksandr Dugin's playbook for Russian dominance:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

The beatings will continue until morale improves!

Your comment adds nothing to this discussion! Perhaps you shluld read up on the site's posting guidelines.

This is all according to Aleksandr Dugin's playbook for russian supremacy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

>The magic of climate science is they literally use correlation as evidence of causation.

Ironic that you claim these climate scientists are making assertions without appropriate evidence...

>the regression is going to end up with non-zero coefficients on it

This is just not true. Plenty of regressions have coefficients that arent statistically distinct from zero.

>But this approach cannot tells us if those inputs are drivers, much less the main ones.

Again, untrue. There are plenty of statistically appropriate ways to estimate causality. You might consider looking into the latter-day work of Judea Pearl, a well known computer scientist. "The Book of Why" seems like a decent place for you to start, because ut is for the layperson, and you have a ton of fundamental errors in your statements of "fact."

>unfortunately with media, politicians, and the general public so science illiterate that they're unable to engage with this research on its own terms

You should also add "the confidently incorrect" to your list!

Perhaps this is US opponents trying.

(And succeeding!)

This is right out of Aleksandr Dugin's playbook for how Russia can regain geopolitical power:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

Not with that attitude, it isnt! /s