Thing is, there will be no mass exodus of employees over this issue.
Also, I'd like to see the historical examples you mentioned.
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Also, I'd like to see the historical examples you mentioned.
Where do you want to draw the line?
I find this news to be incredibly ironic.
And I disagree with the demands, just in my personal opinion.
We have real, powerful enemies that would love to dethrone US as the dominant nation. Those who demand this restriction for working on military contracts have to seriously consider this.
Either way, whether religion is involved or not, discriminating or not, from what I've seen so far, Yelp needs to pay.
Just so that it can be a lesson to others.
One of my friend's dad had a hip surgery and was bed bound for a few weeks. The family had to be at work so they hired a live in helper who was an older woman in her 60s.
This older woman's story was a tragic one to hear.
She had immigrated from Asia to US with her husband and family and had managed to buy a 3bed house. Well life happened and they ended up divorcing in her 60s, and she ended up as owner of the house.
With no income and no real skill, she rented out rooms in her house to pay bills. One renter was a drug dealer. When he was arrested, somehow the lady was dragged into the case and she ended up losing the house to the police, due to this seizure of private property. This was the first time I heard about such practices.
With no house and no other choices, she had to turn to working as a live-in-helper to avoid becoming homeless.
I hope all properties seized through such cases are returned.
Sure, there's profit motive. But 80 years ago, US population was extremely against any kind of military involvement overseas, and funding of US military reflected it.
But turns out even if we don't want war, there's always someone/something like Hitler, Putin, Communism etc etc. And due to the size/location of US, US is forced to take a role overseas.
He recalled that the first night after he spent a day driving the rover on Mars, he couldn't sleep at home. He had just driven a vehicle on the Mars. Certainly one of the first in human history.
At that office, like every desk (many unoccupied) had a normal phone, with an extension #.
In one instance, a recruiter called and it was answered and he/she was told not interested. After that call, every phone on each of the row of desks started ringing one at a time.
After about 3 - 5 such ringings, someone picked up and told them to knock it off.
Just something like, "Please call such such hospital at this number to reach us. We need to get in touch with you. You can google the hospital name to verify before calling."
I get one robocall every day. Interestingly, not 3 or 5, but just about 1 a day.
Never buying brand new car again. Always slightly used car from now. And hopefully cash, with no interest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZD2pBeXY6Q
I have to say, drawing a rather sweeping conclusion of a nation of 51 million after a month long visit to a small area (albeit much of the nation's population living there) is maybe worth some reconsideration.
It's like spending a month in Hollywood for a month eating out often, and concluding that every waiter/waitress in US is just working odd jobs while trying to break into the entertainment industry.
Edit: I've also met people who are well off enough that they don't have to work as waiter/waitress, but still moved to LA to get a script made into movie, go to usc for movie (like writing movie script) etc etc.
I'd think unmarried children living with parents until they marry or get a job that requires moving to another city is quite natural in most other countries.
BUT still, it makes me chuckle that Apple would kill off AirPort, product that was well liked by customers, only to buy (I mean IF the did) a WHOLE new company that includes a wifi router in the product lineup.
I just remember hearing that individual amassed about a quarter of a million of US $ in debt. And he will be paying about $2000 - $3000 a month to repay the debt, till he reaches 40ish, provided there is no hiccup in employment. That's enough for mortgage for a really good house in most parts of US.
Was it worth it? I think not personally. Not with that kind of loan.
And yes, people in mid/senior management spend non trivial time doing non-work related activities on computers behind closed doors of the private offices. I've seen it as a help desk guy.
Bravo.
I mean, I love engineers to be in charge of tech companies, but that doesn't mean I want EVEYRONE to go to college just for STEM.
Also, I actually know a guy who graduated from a top public university IN USA as a mechanical engineer, and could not get a job as an actual engineer for almost 15 years. He did not do bad, but he didn't go all out to be top of the class either.
He did have odd jobs, but not as a mechanical engineer. He finally got a job as an actual mechanical engineer, after 15 years, including a stint in the US armed forces, which he did all because he didn't know what else to do.
The point is someone signed off on that. And in a business, it's usually someone with an MBA.
I can't imagine a business of that popularity having someone making business decisions without an MBA under their belt.
But, lol. The irony.
He appoints Tim Cook to be his successor, who is NOT a product person but a supply chain specialist.
He definitely is not a product person. The same product team under Mr. Jobs may still be there, but I'd think most would agree Apple's been putting out new products that are somewhat lacking...
IBM >> Engineers at helm replaced by MBA. Goes down the drain. Plus many others I'm sure.
I think we can go on and on about how bean counters or business types or lawyers replace engineers at the helm, and end up destroying tech companies that were at the top.
I really wonder, why? Does it have to be that way?
On the flip side, that may be the exact reason they are going bankrupt or facing hard time. Making $15 x a month from 12 million subscribers must have lured them into thinking it will last forever so they get sloppy, lose focus, etc.
Was that person an MBA graduate or not?
I can't agree with that. A well run company doesn't steal $4 from a $5 tip originally given to some poor person making minimum wage.
I am assuming you are saying PM, designers, backend engineers or others who actually had a hand in building the product should protest this. So you are basically saying engineers and designers should stand up and say no.
I think the focus is on wrong people.
The question should be, why is MBA schools still teaching their students to reduce cost at all cost and increase revenue at all cost. No matter what.
Fine, the engineers build what they build. But someone hires/fires people, and signs checks for certain projects. Someone tells the engineers to build something. And who are these people?
Let's focus the public anger at the right people. It's not the engineers.
It's the graduates of the expensive MBA schools.
The 2 kids went to an inner city high school. They went onto University of California, which were definitely affordable 20 years ago, with loans and grants.
One went to an Ivy League and got PhD in STEM and now working in that field. The other also went to a top ranked public university and got PhD in STEM also.
Had the dad been given a chance to get a proper education, who knows what he could've achieved?
Sportsmobile has been converting vans to mini RV or camper van since 1965. Someone recently got a guided tour of the factory by the owner and here it is.
https://youtu.be/p3X9UjNx9g0?t=123
He said there were about 100 vans at the factory at the time, in various stages of conversion. And they were sold out for 14 months.
Near the end the owner shares stories of some of the customers. Some are professional nature photographers/athletes (?) who must stay outdoors for days, and need clean/dry place for equipment, eat/sleep etc. Having the van saves them much time required to travel to/from hotel to their work site.
A lot of employees of Google/Apple also are customers of Sportsmobile.
And some are even medical residents who basically need a place to sleep between shifts and choose to sleep in a camper van, parked at the hospital parking lot.
So camper van is not just for people who want to travel for the sake of travel.
I would love to have a camper van at my disposal so that I can go explore some popular sites like Yosemite, beach campsites etc. But $100,000 is big money.
Execs, senior programmers, project managers make a lot.
And than there are the office support staff, customer service staff, etc that are not really in the 'Tech' company pay scale.
I wish Apple operated that way, as lowering Apple device price will very likely increase the absolute amount of dollars coming into their back acct.
I mean I get Amazon and Apple ear their income via different methods but still.
Ken Burns Vietnam documentary series was about Vietnam (1960s - 1975 ?), not the Korean War (1950 - 1953), no?
The 320,000 South Korean troops who rotated through the Vietnam War over 10+ year period were great troops according to many US veterans who were there.
And also I do not agree with the broad generalization that South Vietnamese troops were hopeless.
And then there were those who really really did not generate output at work and apparently management hoped(?) they would do the same in their personal life and not bother moving to another state.