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I always wonder what makes people take the other side of this argument. They do it quite passionately. Why actively encourage viewing LLMs as human? Who is that benefitting?

To me, it’s the equivalent of “HN is turning into Reddit” - it’s just a complaint without adding to the discussion.

HN already has a feature for that. Just flag the article!

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Aesthetics. Short stem looks sleeker.

Form vs. function

> Are you saying that all of them are actually losing money?

Are you saying these companies are operating on anything resembling a sustainable business model?

I think not!

If OpenAI needs to impose 5 hour limits during a time where they are aggressively trying to grow market share, what do you think they (or whatever the winning provider is) will do in 5 years once they IPO and need to boost margins?

They won’t be as friendly with usage caps as they’re being now.

The entire market is subsided more than it is competitive. The market wouldn’t exist the same as it does today if it weren’t being propped up. Thats the point.

I remember the days when I had a $2000+ credit balance on Uber because I mastered their referral program. “Free” uber blacks for 2 years!

When you’re using free shit that you should probably be paying more for, it’s good to not fool yourself.

In the Uber example, the fact that Lyft also existed at the time didn’t matter to me as someone happily riding around the city in Uber Black for $0. Unfortunately Lyft’s referral program wasn’t so lucrative so I couldn’t switch…

It’s good to be aware when you’re buying something that’s subsidized. No need to downplay the importance of awareness.

Related: What’s the story with Chrome continually triggering the “Chrome would like to access devices on your local network” prompt on MacOS?

It frequently happens when opening ChatGPT on web.

But what do they have to hide?

If we want to whip out the dictionary:

> unsolicited usually commercial messages (such as emails, text messages, or Internet postings) sent to a large number of recipients or posted in a large number of places

“Usually commercial”

“Or posted in a large number of places”

I think we can stretch this definition to describe what’s happening here. What’s the point in arguing this

This is partly why I like to read HN comments. People here go above and beyond in ways I would never bother. Reading other's experiences saves me from going through it myself.

There's no need to test mail services first hand. Just read up and do some rudimentary research.

"long history of prevailing in court" is another way of saying "Google isn't being punished as much as they deserve"

> Their job isn't to make people happy.

Sure, but I think we can all agree the US legal system very, very, very rarely issues any ruling that materially punishes a corporation. Even the worst of the worst typically get off very easy.

Do you disagree with that?

Maybe we should look at paid media as a honeypot.

Without paid media, marketing spend gets pushed to “organic” and “content marketing” aka blog spam and other crap.

Aversion to AI speak will turn into desensitization.

And desensitization will eventually turn into a preference for AI speak. (Perhaps not the HN crowd.. but definitely for the average Joe)

People prefer reading things in a tone/style that's comfortable and familiar to them. Writing in a way that mimics LLMs checks those boxes.

Now compare that to why people don’t want Claude in their commit messages or PR descriptions.

Clearly there’s no pride in using agentic coding (if anything, maybe it’s the opposite of pride..). I don’t think most developers want to publicize their use of agentic. But I could be wrong.

Out of curiosity, do these Claude commit messages fall into the same category of "it's annoying but not worth the effort to turn it off"? If yes/no, why?

Funny to compare it to “Sent from iPhone” that Apple appended to emails by default way back when.

It was an ad, but nobody cared because using iPhone was a point of pride.

And what am I supposed to do when I hit a wall solving a problem? Just sleep on it?

Sarcasm aside, I think there's a real phenomenon of AI removing the experience of getting stuck on a problem (where often I'll wake up the next day with a perfect solution in my head ready to implement). The same way social media removed the experience of "being bored".

At least we don’t gender our nouns!

Learning German, I could not memorize correct usage of der/die/das for the life of me

In rural America, getting someone into the parking lot isn’t much different than in the front door when the next box store is 10-20+ minutes away.

It makes less sense in the suburbs.

This study says otherwise: https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2007/11/pedometers-he...

Even if it doesn’t increase steps on average, it will absolutely still work with someone who’s self-motivated and not just looking for a quick fix.

If your computer never leaves your desk, the iMac is pretty competitive with those features. Even comes with a TouchID keyboard.

I like the original commenter’s compromise.

> It seems like they could have left it as a pure “paint” app and added the fancy stuff to some new image editor or something.

Apple Text Edit vs Pages.

If you’re actually intended to Paint in MS Paint, as in create things from scratch, you need to limit the upper end of quality for it to be usable.

Otherwise you might as well use photoshop.

(But no I’m not kidding myself, I realize the days of using Paint to actually Paint are over)

Pixelation was a feature back in the 90’s and 2000’s.

But yea, I guess it’s a bug in 2026.

It sounds similar to Lipoprotein(a) blood test for cardiac risk.

It's (almost) purely determined by genetics. You can't do anything to improve it, other than to improve every other cardiac related risk factor.

(There are some experimental drugs in the pipeline, though)

> they don't really have that option

I imagine it must somehow be possible to update a model's understanding of recent events without training a completely new model from scratch?

“There is absolutely no way Bitcoin will ever trade for more than $200.. Impossible!” he said.

In my experience, basically all downsides can be solved by lowering the dose, and not escalating dosages as fast as the doctors tell you.