Not arguing that the images aren't art but I personally don't want them popping up on my screen when I'm just trying to get inspiration for landscape photography.
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Not arguing that the images aren't art but I personally don't want them popping up on my screen when I'm just trying to get inspiration for landscape photography.
1) Being alone all the time can make it hard to maintain motivation
2) Having multi-day fights with local ISPs when they randomly cut or throttle my connection (always have a backup mobile dongle)
3) In a hot climate, being tied to a laptop doesn't do great things for your body. I was previously working on physical construction projects 50% of the time and the other 50% was spent on the computer designing and managing those projects. Now I'm just on the computer 100% of my working time and find it hard to stay in shape - I find gym's unnatural but I have to deal with that in order to stay in shape.
4) Not seeing people eye to eye means you have to get good at written communication, fast.
I find that when I am researching something I have to spend so much time wading through people's attempted (and sometimes good) prose in order to find the conclusion I need.
In an era of overwhelming data I feel like we should have a way to make common data much more accessible and David's work (despite it's potential flaws in regards to empiricism) seems to be a step in the right direction.
I am pakeha but went to bilingual school, am pro treaty settlements, predominantly hunt WITH Maori people, have been involved with Maori society my entire life and my family members are buried in a Maori urupa.
Please be more careful about the snap judgements you make based on a single comment.
Regarding your last point; it depends if you see spending time in the outdoors and breaking laws on public roads as ethically the same thing.
Everyone doesn't need to have my experiences, but if I cant talk about the value of those personal experiences and recommend some of them without it being referred to as bigotry then I'm left wondering what the free sharing of ideas is for? Can I only share purely objective ideas? - Because, unfortunately, I don't have any of those.
It taught me resourcefulness, physical discipline, patience and survival skills. Having now traveled the world and spent many years living outside of New Zealand I have come to realize what unique abilities these are and in what a unique way us Kiwis have them. My grandfather used to tell me how appreciated us Kiwis were in World War Two for exactly these reasons.
There is nothing special in our water or our climate or anything like that. We just have an incredible resource that many young kiwis have traditionally engaged, often for the purposes of recreational hunting.
There is a chunk of conservation advocates who hardly engage the New Zealand outdoors, like myself (and others), yet they have a say in how it is run. They live in cities and have an idealistic but impractical understanding of our resource. The outdoors and the animals within the outdoors are a concept to these people, not a part of their lives.
Some mammals in New Zealand are an absolute resource and would be easy to control if we saw them as such. We wouldn't need state sponsored poisoning runs or organized culls of NZ's large mammals if youth were shown the educational value of going out and learning how to survive, be safe, be brave, in order to hunt a deer - and then how to not waste it.
I really hope the larger mammals in New Zealand remain and are treated as a resource for NZ's ambitious young people who want adventure but instead find it in playing video games and driving cars fast on public roads.
I see myself as a conservationist, I just don't see the need to wind back the clock 300 years. Lets control the large mammals and protect our unique environment: the two aren't mutually exclusive.
I'm not going to give your well thought out points the response they deserve but let me respond with a few things.
Of course our interpretation of the bible evolves to some degree because our interpretation of anything reflects our culture. Jesus existed within a culture and so do the people that attempt to follow him. Wouldn't you be concerned if people's biblical understanding didn't evolve in some respect and we all wore togas and sandals to be biblical?
Paragraph two: no one can prove or disprove God therefore default to Occam's razor for the final decision. Occam's razor is useful for statistical thinking but imagine if we applied this "default to occam's razor attitude" with everything? Would Einstein have pursued and refined his general theory? Unlikely, he might have said something like "this is all getting a bit unusual and not what I initially expected, I think I'll just default back". As you suggest he has decided to "assume much less" and completely nullified his pursuit of truth for the sake of intellectual comfort - not having to deal with something that, on the surface, appeared bizarre and unappealing on our first analysis. It isn't fair to do this to ourselves when history has shown that truth is often stranger than we can imagine.
Fine Tuning: Sure, there are scientific answers to these things; "one in a trillion planets happens to be the right distance from the sun" well and good. But to have all these elements, each with such miniscule odds, is far beyond the probability of the known universe many times over. To the point that, folks like Richard Dawkins propound the multiverse theory in which there are billions of universes like our own and we just happen to be in the right one because there is no logical explanation to how all these elements came together just right in the universe that we know....to me its the multiverse that sounds far fetched but I'm willing to analyse it further.
False dichotomy; having investigated many world religions and seen the theme of "be good enough, meditate enough, pray enough and you might reach paradise/nirvana" repeated over and over again, it seems that God is a terrible guy who sits in comfort delivering proclamations that we can't keep up with. That is, until I look at Christ and see that, far from remaining out of the mess, he has entered it in pursuit of us (like a loving father would) and makes payment for us himself. When my child does wrong I pursue him even when he doesn't want to be pursued because I love him. To sit back and say "be good or daddy won't love you" would be horrific and manipulative and not lead to a meaningful relationship. Because the God of the bible treats humanity like a loving father treats his son is the reason I see it as the only other option. If the vengeful and distant gods of Hinduism etc are true then, I'm sorry, but I don't want to know them.
>"You must get comfortable with not knowing" - sorry but I have to disagree here. I don't think I'll ever be comfortable with not knowing. I desperately want the truth and see it as lifes purpose to pursue it. However, there comes a point where I have to leap off from the knowledge I have and make a few assumptions otherwise I am left with nothing to stand on. This is why science has hypothises - we don't have all the answers but we need to believe in something or we have no objective standpoint with which to consider anything true and, as a few despairing philosophy students will tell you "we could just be brains sitting in vats being sent sensory information through nerve endings, we can't prove anything." This is a weak position in which to pursue truth because "you can't prove anything" and so nothing becomes reliable. As CS Lewis has pointed out; "if you see through everything then you really see nothing at all".
Religion may have been used to make sense of reality but that doesn't mean it is its only purpose. If there is truth in religion then it must be the means of a creator to get in touch with creation (temporarily ignoring the fact that humans have used religion for all other kinds of selfish means that is wasn't intended for). So to say "we needed God once when we didn't understand stuff but now we know things so we don't need God" is the old cause and agency discussion. Just because I know how something was done doesn't mean I know the reason (or lack of reason) that it was done for. Also, as Edison pointed out, despite a bit of progress we still don't know one millionth of a percent about anything. Sure, we've made some great scientific discoveries. But every new discovery opens ten new questions. This is partly what makes science so awesome but we need to keep this humbling fact in mind when we start thinking we have 'arrived' at the fullness of knowledge.
I claim to know God a little because he chose to not leave us in the dark but deliver to us the bible for our own benefit. But the bible is available to a lot of people is therefore a 'distributed' revelation of truth. How can I use the bible to exert power of someone when they have access to it themselves. The people who are vulnerable to this kind of manipulation are those who won't investigate themselves but effectively say "someone tell me what to believe". Thankfully, these people are becoming less and less and people who understand what they believe are on the increase (relative to the whole). You, super_mario, are not susceptible to being one of these "tell me what to believe" people because of your inquisitiveness and obvious desire to seek out truth. I'm sorry that people have used the bible to "lord it over others" but the bible itself specifically says not to do this. People that do this anger me as much as they anger anyone else. The only objective source of truth in Christianity is the bible which is why we posit "sola scriptura" or scripture as the highest authority. Most have access to it so there is less chance of manipulation. Acts 17:11 encourages this attitude, to take whatever someone says and compare it with scripture to see if its true, rather than swallowing it wholesale.
Miracles: if we need proof of miracles to affirm our faith then I would say it is a shallow faith. Our faith should come from looking at the facts not, as you say, pursuing some shaman. Yes, I believe Jesus worked miracles. No, that is not the reason I believe he is the son of God. Some people have used some hand-wavy logic and tried to make explicit miracles evidence for God but, for people who think like you and I, this does not suffice and we are unlikely to see 100% conclusive proof. I see no need to go further into it than that.
Why did Christ come when he did: This is a good question and I have to admit that I am not a purveyor of all truth and so I can't say that I know the answer. Personally the flexibility of time, as proven by General Relativity has never made the timing issue a biggie for me. Also, the tragedies of this world are certainly that; tragic. However, if Christ's coming is true then the pains of this world must pale in comparison. This is not to say the pain people faced was irrelevant but that there is no doubt more at stake than I currently understand. You've piqued my interest though, I shall investigate this further. I think its a little unfair to refer to it as "dumb credulity". My faith in Christ comes from the best objective reasoning I can muster, which, I hope you can see, is not without rigour. I do not blindly accept that God showed up late. I'm interested in an answer, and, thanks to your suggestion, I shall pursue one.
"the man-made character of religion persists in a terrifying shape in our own time". I agree with this and think it sucks. However, religion has simply been the most powerful tool at humanity's disposal. Humans will wield the most powerful tool they can to get what they selfishly want, this has historically been religion. If there was no religion we would be wielding something else. Just consider Soviet Russia or Maoist China as an example. Humans are screwed up and we have used religion to express our screwed up-ness. Agreed. But just because people get killed in car accidents doesn't make cars the source of all horror on our roads, it is the feeble drivers behind the cars that are the problem.
Would love to take this conversation elsewhere and keep it going. Really appreciate your thoughtfulness and the challenges you are presenting to me, its healthy.
My concern is that, when people of non-faith hold the political upper hand (in some places they already do) will they have the moral objectivity to say that all people are of value and their opinions worthy of respect?
This was not the case under previous faithless systems. Soviet Russia and Maoist China saw people as expendable for what was perceived to be the advancement of their greater ideals. The Christian west may have acted like dicks and used God to justify their selfish atrocities, but at least they could be pulled up on a moral objective standpoint (the bible) and be told; "this is not OK because your bible says so". Most have since stopped listening to this kind of questioning however.
Nice talking with you super_mario, would like to hear your thoughts on the discussion I linked to above but we should probably talk somewhere else rather than steal a thread meant for Tim Cook.
The balance of the fine tuned requirements of our universe, once understood to be "just so" are now, accepted as having a probability so slim that the likelihood of them occurring in the balances we find them in the known universe is infinitesimal (I'm talking about the gravitational constant, our distance from the sun, gas balance in the atmosphere etc etc). Tweak one of these balances just a little and life would never have occurred. The only answer pure impericists have for this "fine tuning argument" is the multiverse argument - that there are actually billions of universes and we just happen to be in the right one....thats grasping at straws and has absolutely no evidence to support it except that it allows them to continue claiming "there is no intention behind any of it".
You're talking like all Christians are anti-science. Some are, but they're sadly ignorant. Western science began as an attempt to better understand the mind of God. God was not taken to be a convenient excuse to explore nothing but motivation to know him better was given as justification to explore more. I know there are vocal luddites who do what you say but they do not represent all of us.
I believe this debate is relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tU3-crvTDc
None of us have absolute certainty about anything we have to make our best analysis of the facts before us. I analysed the facts heavily and believe that the God of the bible is more plausible than any other explanation of our existence.
As Mahatma Ghandi said; "I like your Christ but I do not like your Christians, your Christians are so unlike Christ". Look at the person and work of Jesus if you want to know about Christianity, not us broken individuals who attempt to follow him.
On another note, the argument that you know the method therefore the agency doesn't exist has always seemed illogical to me. I know how Toyota puts its cars together, that doesn't mean that Toyota doesn't exist.
We have different beliefs and I'm not here to argue, just presenting a different point of view. You have the right to say what you say and believe what you believe, I will even defends those rights for you. I just hope that you will be willing to do the same for me.
Are they not realistic to us because we already exist in a kind of Huxleyan dystopia and therefore we simply perceive them as not bad?
It would allow discussion on such topics without fear of reprisal.
With my lack of coding skills would this even be possible?
Suggestion; I use 3D models almost everyday for mechanical engineering projects and here is a challenge that, perhaps the Yobi3D creators could address:
When I work on an engineering project, I source parts from all sorts of different suppliers depending on price, reputation and previous relationships.
In order to quote well on a project we generally model as much as possible in 3D beforehand. However, this can get expensive as a huge chunk of my time is taken up finding 3D files of supplier's components (generally hidden on some obscure part of their website) and converting those files to a format we can use.
Would it not be possible to scrape (I don't know the terminology - I'm not a codey person) the web and find any kind of 3D files distributed freely on supplier's websites, download these files to a central repository, automatically convert them into a range of usable formats, auto generate an image (like, it appears, Yobi3D has done) and auto generate some meta-data (if none exists) from the page/site the 3D file was found on?
I could then go on a site like Yobi3D, search a supplier's name or a particular product's name, and have the file well presented, easily found, in a format I can use, on a robust and reliable website.
I'd pay good money for this service if it was done well and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.
I'm assured things are organized now but its still a little nerve wracking. I know lots of people that would love to be able to reliably rent bikes in India and have often thought about doing what you have done. Your interface looks very professional and gives confidence to the user.
I live in Mumbai, do you have thoughts on expansion?
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