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camgunz··on A 'cold blob' in the Atlantic could be a sign of AMOC shutdown – CNN
No it's the frog boil effect. It's a staggering amount of change, it's just over a whole human lifetime so most people don't really clock it. Elites are supposed to do something about it, but mostly because of corruption and ideology they aren't.
camgunz··on A 'cold blob' in the Atlantic could be a sign of AMOC shutdown
I really think people are sleeping on the AMOC. The first season there isn't European wine/cheese/olives because of climate change is the first season European farmers probably literally declare war on their governments, to say nothing of the fact that almost no European homes can handle this level of cold.

And for some perspective, this is only one of many other huge changes that huge populations will react violently to in the next 20-50 years. Good luck to us all.

camgunz··on UK set to announce social media ban for under-16s
The actual ban passed a couple months ago, after the data in your link was collected. But also, smoking bans (etc) had hugely positive effects on smoking rates. There's every reason to be positive.
camgunz··on How to earn a billion dollars
> There are two numbers that determine how big a startup gets, and thus how rich its founders become: the growth rate and how long it continues

> The reason her startup was growing so fast was simply that users loved what she'd built.

> In the real world, growth rates tend to slow down a bit. A very successful startup will probably be growing faster than 15% a month in year 1 and slower than 15% a month in year 4.

It turns out that the people who will invest in your startup when 93% MoM gains are possible want you to do pretty much anything to keep growth as high as possible--also your career, net worth, and employment are tied to this so you're similarly motivated--including squeezing and manipulating those users who loved you so much. But hey, as long as you personally get rich it's fine I guess.

camgunz··on Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows
Kinda, the measurement points are 2012 and 2020, so the decline is somewhere in that eight year period (birth years 1999-2007 and 2003-2011). My guess is phones/tablets strike again.
camgunz··on AI is slowing down
I don't know that Uber is generalizable. I also think specific company dynamics matter (are your execs encouraging tokenmaxxing, have you IPO'd or are you playing w/ VC money all of whom are encouraging tokenmaxxing, etc).

Another way you could take it is, avg Uber salary is what $300k/yr? Does Uber think LLMs make their engineers at most .5% more productive?

camgunz··on Siri AI
It's bananas to me that people want to put LLMs in critical software paths when the 2nd most valuable company on Earth can't do more than the most basic shit with them. Like, look at this list of actions:

- Take a selfie

- Create a reminder

- Call Vicki

- Rotate photo left

- Create a new event (do you create an old event?)

- Send an email

- Resume my podcast

- Create a note

- Add photo to album

...can't iOS do literally every one of those things already? What the fuck is happening?

camgunz··on How's Linear so fast? A technical breakdown
> Only if your users are all located quite close to each other, or (sadly very common) you only care about making it fast for US users and screw everyone else.

Very true, mostly because it's pricey to do so--or more specifically, putting a server in DCA is $.005/user, putting a server in JNB is like $.50/user sooooo....

Sometimes this is a "so what", other times it has huge implications for app architecture.

camgunz··on LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do
> [There is plenty of data to support the claim that AI continues to improve, even exponentially.](https://epoch.ai/trends)

This doesn't look at all exponential to me: https://epoch.ai/benchmarks?view=graph&tab=eci. OpenAI models went from 137 ECI to 159 ECI over about a year and a half, and the trends are similar for Anthropic and Google. These things have never been exponential.

> The models optimise for solving the benchmark and we create new benchmarks to assess broader intelligence. As models converge on 100%, progress obviously slows.

We are nowhere near 100% on important benchmarks like hallucinations: https://artificialanalysis.ai/evaluations/omniscience?model-...

...also, progress isn't improving with model releases.

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We're running out of money. While we don't know how much it cost to train things like Claude, most (all?) industry reports indicate that a significant gain in function (2x) would require an exponential amount of resources (20x). No one's yet been able to convince investors that's worth it.

Also, we're running out of data: https://epoch.ai/publications/will-we-run-out-of-data-limits....

Also, we're running out of of low hanging fruit: "We find that the level of compute needed to achieve a given level of performance has halved roughly every 8 months, with a 95% confidence interval of 5 to 14 months. This represents extremely rapid progress, outpacing algorithmic progress in many other fields of computing and the 2-year doubling time of Moore’s Law that characterizes improvements in computing hardware (see Figure 2)." (https://epoch.ai/publications/algorithmic-progress-in-langua...). Maybe you think we'll continue along this breakneck pace, but again no investor thinks that, which is why prices are going up (investment is drying up).

Also we're running out of compute. Data center projects are stalling. Some of this is spiking energy prices, some of this is politics, much of this is grid constraints and supply chain problems: https://tech-insider.org/us-ai-data-center-delays-cancellati....

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Finally, and perhaps worst of all, despite unprecedented investment data on the productivity gains is mixed. This is the biggest difference from other technological leaps like electricity, the industrial revolution, literally fire, etc. Those things were immediately, undeniably more productive. AI is not like that. You're not seeing an AI Microsoft, an AI Salesforce, an AI Oracle, an AI SAP, etc. You can argue that their advantages are structural, but there are no successful AI-powered alternative products (no AI Office, no AI ERP, no AI database, etc).

camgunz··on LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do
Nothing corroborated this. Performance on benchmarks has practically leveled off. The big gains have come from architecture (have a secondary LLM review output) or searching the internet. Also prices are going up. Everything points to the likelihood that we're at the top of the curve.
camgunz··on I'm skeptical about efforts to revolutionize schooling
It's way more comprehensive than just phonics:

- Mandatory screening of students in grades K-3, three times a year, using approved assessment tools, to monitor how early reading skills are developing

- Focused efforts to improve curriculum quality in schools— for phonics and other aspects of literacy

- Large-scale efforts to train teachers

- Retention policies to hold back students who aren’t reading successfully by the end of third grade

Lifted directly from https://www.theargumentmag.com/p/is-mississippi-cooking-the-...

It's also worth saying a lot of the gains evaporate when you factor in learning loss from COVID and Mississippi suddenly screening/helping kids for dyslexia (etc). But, still there's something to learn, just not simply phonics.

camgunz··on Alan Kay on "Should web browsers have stuck to being document viewers?"
Imagine how rich Apple could have become if they had used Alan Kay's brilliance to build hyper engaging products and services instead of letting him toil away uselessly trying to make the bicycle of the mind. What a waste.
camgunz··on Restartable Sequences
I gotta think people are working pretty hard to not see it's a joke.
camgunz··on Social Animus
No, if people want to walk around calling someone some kind of fascist they need receipts. Anything else is repugnant Internet brigading that has no place on HN.
camgunz··on wolfSSL releases a new product; wolfCOSE a zero alloc C embbedded COSE stack
CBOR has other ways it's unsuitable; the spec has a whole section about it: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9052#name-cbor-enco...
camgunz··on Social Animus
I tried pretty hard, but even the Wikipedia refs are just people (wildly) extrapolating from the petition. I'm not saying these aren't her beliefs, I'm just saying we don't have enough to know, definitely not enough to cancel her, which this thread feels like it's about.
camgunz··on Social Animus
Thanks! I don't know, a cheeky petition and an off-hand tweet don't seem conclusive or comprehensive to me.
camgunz··on Social Animus
Like what?
camgunz··on Why the smart home bubble popped
(I run Home Assistant)

Two things I would say. One, reliability is real bad. Sometimes getting devices connected is a ridiculous pain in the ass. Sometimes automations just don't work. Sometimes devices just go dark and can't be brought back. Etc. etc. etc. So, you don't really want to engage, and you don't really want to make it a critical part of your home. Or said another way: it prevents you from tinkering in a fun way. When kids were learning BASIC on their home computers, things were pretty reliable. Not always, I mean hardware failure or whatever happens. But it was good and the feedback cycles were short. You're not gonna get people curious and thus experts with the existing smart home devex.

The second is we expect practically nothing from people in our culture. You don't need to be an expert in radio communications to know like, more walls between a device and your AP is bad, or that channels can get crowded. You don't need to be a tech wizard to know how to reset a device (you look in the manual or search online). We should be embarrassed that some of the most educated and wealthy people in history can't perform even basic logic or troubleshooting.

camgunz··on -​-dangerously-skip-reading-code
At the bottom of each of these arguments is a "who is accountable" question. You can tell an LLM "hey, use Lean to verify this" or "hey, do a code review" or "hey, write some tests and run them". It might do these things, it might not. You can then tell another LLM "hey, check that LLM A did these things". It might do these things, it might not. Repeat.

You can tell a human (an IC) the same things. You can then tell another human (a manager) "hey, check that IC A did these things". So far, these are the same. But there's now a critical difference: you can then hold those people accountable if they don't. They can be in the critical path. LLMs can't. People can improve. LLMs can't. People can work together. LLMs can't.

This doesn't always matter. You don't need things like accountability or improvement or teamwork all the time. But you do in reliable software.

camgunz··on Everyone Against Us (2023)
> But this example hilariously contradicts the claim that "the system is stacked against the accused"

What do you think is more likely: cops fudging facts on reports super frequently because it works, or PDs and their shared investigator having time to run down every report for each of their clients and courts accepting the findings?

camgunz··on -​-dangerously-skip-reading-code
No, because those direct reports can use tools to build deterministic software. LLMs can't, because they themselves are non-deterministic. They will say they did, and they will be wrong. And the LLM you have check will also say it did, and it will be wrong. Etc etc.

These things just can't be in the critical path. They are ridiculously unreliable.

camgunz··on Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting
No he's saying that realistically it's a challenge you have to accept if your success depends on culture change.
camgunz··on Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting
Yeah people think government is like, you elect people and they get a turn at the wheel. But all the people you could elect aren't equally experienced or competent drivers, and the car doesn't suit them all equally (this is simple systems theory, either your government is highly tailored towards--say--centrists running it and thus is very efficient, or anyone on any part of the political spectrum could run it but it's significantly less efficient).

Or like, in your example (to be clear I defer to you entirely on the facts), not only would Foxx have to be a competent State's Attorney, she'd have to be competent at changing a system that's not ideal for her into one that is, e.g. by persuading existing staff, hiring new staff, etc.

This is by no means impossible--it's called leadership. My hot take, more or less, is that if you get someone into office who shares your values but can't make the office execute those values, not only will you fail but you'll tarnish your political movement for... a good long time, so competence is actually more important than values alignment.

My even hotter take is that people used to know this. When people from minority groups or political persuasions got power (women, LGBTQ people, racial/ethnic/religious minorities, ideological/philosophical minorities, etc) they knew they were modeling for everyone in their group. Is it fair? No. Is it reality. Super yes! Is whining about unfairness good politics and/or attractive at all? Super no!

camgunz··on Native all the way, until you need text
I thought models were so good we could vibecode a text renderer for $50. What's the problem here? /s
camgunz··on Mullvad exit IPs are surprisingly identifying
Plenty of people own more than one website. You're also forgetting about random site assets like web fonts, CSS, JavaScript CDNs, etc. etc.
camgunz··on Mullvad exit IPs are surprisingly identifying
"identifying" is the wrong word here--that's only possible if Mullvad stores a mapping between IP addresses and people, which according to them, a 3rd party audit, and a law enforcement raid they do not. It's also worth saying it's possible to use Mullvad entirely anonymously by mailing them cash, which I do.

Also if the threat model you're addressing w/ VPN usage is anything other than "I don't want my ISP to know what I'm doing" you need to use/do something else.

camgunz··on Why modern parents feel more sleep deprived than our ancestors did
I super agree; my partner and I talk all the time about how like, kids really benefit from having all kinds of different caregivers. Mostly from a place of "did we make a mistake"--we moved to the Netherlands away from our parents/etc. and, while we can compensate with day care and such, it's really not the same for all kinds of obvious reasons. We did have kids later: I was 39 and 41 when they were born, so that kind of helps. But, it's hard to not also feel it's the worst of both worlds: I have neither the energy of a late-20s father, nor the patience of a mid-50s grandfather.

For us (my partner and I) these discussions dovetail into discussions about community. Like, so much about modern, suburban, nuclear family stuff is really isolating for everyone involved. We don't know exactly where to go from here, but looking at the declining fertility rate, it does seem unsustainable.

camgunz··on New open source city-state, with new constitution functional on one site
Listen, I love this idea. But shotguns after rifles? Criminalizing "public sexual immorality"? I literally can't buy in. You also need to criminalize using an unauthorized currency. Again very cool, hope it's not an elaborate rug pull. Good luck
camgunz··on Nobody Reviews Compiler Output
Lord Satan give me strength. Yes people review compiler output, like compiler engineers. Compilers are deterministic, so reviewing it once is sufficient. Man, it's like some kind of blanket of stupidity over the world. Also clearly AI-written article, because of course it is.
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