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Atwood's Law [1] seems to be holding up so far:

"Any application that can be written in JavaScript, will eventually be written in JavaScript."

[1] http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/07/the-principle-of-le...

If you set box-sizing: border-box [1], you don't need to worry about the latter.

At a time :)

Completely understand your concern. However, a couple of points to clarify:

- Webflow is meant for production site implementation, so your actual "source" files would be on your computer (in Photoshop, etc). You'd still need to use PS to slice images, optimize them, etc - we're not trying to replace Photoshop wholesale, just improve the workflow around the actual creation of the live site (something for which Photoshop was never intended).

- All your work completed in Webflow (to implement the initial design, and make it responsive), can be easily exported to a full HTML/CSS/JS bundle that can be run hosted anywhere you wish. A good practice could be to download completed sites and archive them in source control as a contingency.

Great point. "Down the line" is quite relative, by the way. Right now, we are very fanatical about improving our designer interface, and we'll see where things go from there.

We love Macaw, and the early preview looks amazing! Can't wait to play with the final version. That said, it looks like it is much more similar to Adobe Edge Reflow, but with a more intuitive interface.

With Webflow, we're looking to build a more comprehensive hosted platform that allows designers to create production websites and actually deploy them live. Down the line, this means that content management, functional web forms, eCommerce integration, and a variety of other things are possible out of the box, without the need to export code and change it manually. Even simple things for programmers like script compression/concatenation and CDN acceleration (all of which happen after the design phase) are hard for many designers to set up, so we want to take as many headaches away as possible so designers can get back to work.

Hey Max, you're totally right. Responsive Web Design is exploding, and it's great to see so much action in this space.

(Co-founder here.)

138 days ago, we posted a Show HN [1], and the feedback was so massively encouraging that we doubled down on building the best possible responsive design platform imaginable. Thank you HN for playing such a big part in the first chapter of our young company.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5407499

(Founder here) Yep, that's the plan :)

It was sad to see both Fireworks (and Dreamweaver, in a previous life) get progressively less and less attention from Adobe over the years. I wonder what kind of web development tools we would have available today if Adobe never acquired Macromedia and let it keep innovating.

The fact that such a complex workflow (creating static designs, outsourcing coding, manually integrating with a backend, etc) is still being asked of creatives in 2013 boggles my mind.

With a bunch of web-focused tools just now starting to get off the ground - like Easel, Divshot, Jetstrap, Webflow (my company), Froont, Jetstrap, Macaw, etc etc - it's exciting to see Adobe get some real competition in the web space. The demise of Fireworks may actually be a blessing in disguise in the long term.

For those who use Github as their primary origin server AND perform deploys via git, do you have redundancy measures in place to enable you to keep pushing code even during these outages?

This is awesome! When Scoutzie first launched, I thought "Why does this have to be limited to mobile designers?" - so it's really great to see that it has now expanded into more areas.

Right now, there is not one "marketplace" where a business owner can go to find the best designers, especially for websites. Without knowing their options, I've seen many businesses settle for a) a crappy site by their local yellow pages outfit b) the first result for "[my city] web designer" c) one of those do-it-yourself site builders or d) no website at all. A centralized directory of vetted designers makes a lot of sense for easier discovery.

One other thing that would make sense is an Airbnb-style rating system, so designers can start earning a verifiable reputation based on prior work that originated through Scoutzie.

I see, that makes perfect sense. Looks like I was reading things backwards this morning. Thanks David!

Does anyone know where the 100MM number comes from?

According to Netcraft [1], there were over 600MM active sites [2] last month.

[1] http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2013/04/02/april-2013-web-...

[2] http://www.netcraft.com/active-sites/

I'm curious, why did you choose to submit this at a suboptimal time (according to your own service)?

In my family's culture (Russian Protestant), getting married early is not only common, but expected. My wife and I got married when I was 24, which was almost shocking in a community where the average was around 20. I've had many awkward conversation (of the "I will pray for you" type) with my grandmother, who sincerely believed I was making a huge mistake by choosing school instead of marriage.

Personally, I feel like I got married at the perfect time in my life (I was done with school, had a great job lined up, etc), and have never regretted that decision. My wife helped me re-focus on the important things, and inspired me to pursue my dream of starting a company.

However, the majority of my Russian friends who were married in their very early 20s have seemingly stagnated in their professional (and even personal) pursuits. Most were married either before or during college, and have either dropped out or are pursuing their education on a very limited part-time basis.

My experience is completely anecdotal, but it seems like getting married early (18-21) has significant drawbacks. Perhaps the sweet spot is somewhere between there and the current late-20s average.

From the Face.com website: "Face.com Inc. has been acquired by Facebook, and as part of this process, we need to close up existing products and services so we can focus on new products at Facebook."

Since that time, SendGrid has posted multiple outage status updates on their Twitter feed, pretty much debunking the theory that their Twitter account was compromised.

Thank you for the feedback! It's definitely a big challenge to make things like this intuitive, and we know we have a ways to go. I'd love to know if you have any specific thoughts on how you would approach the UX there.

Nope, though I do share your admiration of his work!

In case you are wondering, we did not do any downvoting of the parent. He/she voiced a very valid concern which we've heard from many people, so no negativity sensors triggered here :)

Sorry about that! Can you send me an email (in my profile) so I can manually add you. I know the service we are using (KickoffLabs) does some sort of filtering in their code, and yours might be a false positive.

Well, I guess that would explain the LinkedIn requests ;)

Thanks Nick! We're bootstrapping pretty hard right now, but always open to options. I'd love to get in touch with you - can you send me an email?

Yep, that's been our experience so far. Believe it or not, but there are north of 100,000 observables on the CSS Playground page alone, so we had to really optimize things. It's still sluggish in some areas, though.

I just printed this comment out and pinned it to the wall. :)

I'm not sure how far back you want us to go. Born in the freezing winter lands of the former USSR, Vlad and Sergie Magdalin embarked on a... oh, not that far? :)

I've been doing freelance web design on the side for a long time (actually bought the webflow.com domain in college for that purpose, going into a lot of debt in the process), then worked at Intuit for several years on an a social enterprise product. Studied CS at CalPoly, and spent a few years wandering through art school in SF before that.

My brother (Sergie) studied at UCSD and worked as a creative director for MuirSkate.com prior to starting work on Webflow. You can see his (now outdated) portfolio here: http://sergie.info/

Love the edit :)

We're actually big fans of the MailChimp pricing model (both pay-as-you go and monthly options), so it's a possibility.

About Bootstrap, the current demo already uses it for the non-visual elements (grid, etc), but we're still not sure about a whole-scale import yet. There are a lot of changes afoot with Bootstrap and Foundation (mobile-first being a big trend), so we're noodling on a ton of options.

We're very close to having Firefox and IE10 support, so this will not be true for long.

Yes, primarily. You can see a small preview right now on the Library ("+" icon), but we chose to disable it for now so we can focus the demo on CSS.