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Thanks for the help Paul

I'm sorry. Changed the title to ask hn. More logical?

Do you have info that LR using emails for their own ?

I changed into ask hn. How is this?

Is there a problem having a launchrock page? Do you thinl that i misuse something?

What is the problem with launchrock?

I mentioned RoR, because that was what I've used in my previous project.

RoR's learning curve is much more higher than Tornado. I don't even think that is fair to compare those two. IMHO, RoR is more suitable for apps that requires lots of objects, views, etc.. E.g: A business app or a website.

In our case, we don't have that many tables, but lots of code around it and our app also runs on top of a single page. All the rest is taken care via AJAX.

One more factor in our decision was simplicity. You can easily dive into Tornado's code ( web.py ) and understand, whereas in RoR you need to read a lot of code, and Ruby is also making it harder to find out the flow of the code with its advanced concepts ( was called extends I believe )

And I am not a big fan of Active Record as well. We use PyMongo to communicate directly with MongoDb.

Tornado's Asynchronous abilities also an advantage.

Also I did not have that much of experience to use RoR in full scale, and if I got stuck on something, I need to read a lot and I don't like that.

Totally agree and in addition to that, Tell your story, tell stories about your startup, product, people, bear etc..

Glad you liked it.

Hacker news has a format for this Show HN: Zurker.in - An alternative Social Networking site

and I don't believe it's gaining popularity like Pinterest. The project name smells too much related to Zuckerberg

I would definitely not return back from US to Netherlands to start a company :)

Btw, we did not started Followords with RoR. Started with Python/Tornado from scratch

thanks ozuolmez

I've never worked in the US.

My co-founder was very experienced in php, so we said, lets find the middle and pick Python. Of course that's not the only reason. Python has great packages text processing (esp NLTK) and we really liked the simplicity

thanks zoidb

As you might know, without committed users Twitter would not have # tag and @ sign. They have talked with their users at one point. They don't have an option. You have to.

What their advantage right now, Facebook already have 3200+ employees which also means users that they can get feedback. Twitter has the same nature. But believe me, they are talking a lot with their customers(advertisers), not with you or me, coz we are a small fish in the ocean. Our lives are not dependent on FB or TW, if we find a better app, we will sell them in a second.

That's also why I believe 37signals, Evernote, Dropbox are much more valuable brands than Facebook & Twitter. They might not have 100s million of users, but if you can't monetize, it does not matter

We will be going Freemium, but in a way that Evernote does. Not in FB or TW modal.

I totally agree with the question "Do I really need this?" No I don't. But there is an idea behind asking those information.

I don't care about their data. But I do care about them and I would like to see people who care about the app which will try to solve some problem of them. I would like to have a passionate user base(100s) rather than collecting 1000s of emails. I would like to talk with them, one by one and ask them if we can help them.

Some people told me there are similar tools, some asked me questions, some shared their love and interest to use the app. Some said "Landing page sucks" which I agree a lot! Some asked for a job.. I wouldn't get this if I was only asking their email address.

173 people even wrote something to remarks. Only 60 people did not write their names ( some of them did not write their names but put some remarks )

448 people filled out their name. Only 1 of them has name-surname "In Valid" and his email address is avalid@email.com I bet he is a bot.

First name - Last name fields are not required. People who follow Hacker News are already experienced Web users who knows clearly a sign of Required Field, they might easily skip it, but they did not. The rest of the emails are already indicating their name and surname.

If they don't care and they don't request an invite; which means I would be more efficiently spend my time.

It might have a better conversion rate without asking their name, but I don't care about the conversion rate that much.

Don't get me wrong, I am not against what you say, I am trying to rationalize the behavior with data.

If they're discouraged because I'm asking their names, than it's fine. There is nothing I can do about that.

We're not sending out invites yet. Can you send me an email to bahadir@followords.com ?

Thanks Barry, interesting vs importance highly personal and it's a hard topic.

755 opened the registration form, 478 completed it.

Thank you for spending your time. I really appreciate it. At the time when I was writing those sentences, I realized it will be too long to fit into the area, and left behind like that. We'll be rebuilding the website some time in the future. Thanks for the suggestions

Thanks lince for the heads up. I guess we'll create some contradiction in Spanish :)

Thanks cynusx. Yes I agree we need a copywriter to describe what we do.

Thanks for the feedback. We're focusing more on the product rather than the website. We'll probably throw it away totally..

Tagline, oh boy that is one hell of a job.

I need a quiet space and no distractions otherwise I cannot code.(Coffeeshops eliminated) I was at home for 6 months before we've started Followords. I am a bit tired of it. It's nice to be at home once in a while, but not for a looong time.

You should definitely check out http://www.meetup.com/Hackers-and-Founders-Amsterdam-NL/

Thanks Maarten

Thanks import

Thanks for the suggestions.

Yes, we have an office in Science Park. No we are not a profitable business. We're not even a business yet. B.V. has advantages for our own reasons.

We're committed to this project. We have rented the place on 1st of January 2012 and started working on.

I was at Hackers and Founders in its first 5-6 meetups. But I missed the last 5-6 meetups

We're bootstrapped but does not mean we will always be.

Search is on our core, but we're not replacing search engine. We just deliver results in a different way