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atleastoptimal··on The shingles vaccine may reduce the risk of dementia
So much of neurodegeneration has turned out to be the effects of latent viruses in the body. HSV-1 is correlated with developing dementia along with many respiratory viruses.
atleastoptimal··on Ghost Font: A font that humans can read but AI cannot
Playing whack-a-mole with AI tests like this will never work, specifically because there is nothing AI has been proven to do better at than specific tasks with verifiable correctness
atleastoptimal··on The revenge of the philosophy majors
Hilarious that the article is framed as a humanities vs sciences thing even though the caliber of philosophers who can get these jobs at labs are the top 0.1% in their field, and wouldn't have trouble finding a job elsewhere, whereas you could get a good-paying job as an engineer at a relatively lower percentile.
atleastoptimal··on Morbid: Debunking Modern Longevity Science
If you exercise your resting heart rate will be lower, so athletic people have fewer total heart beats. However I'm not sure number of heart beats is a relevant metric to cardiovascular wear and tear.
atleastoptimal··on The Permission Slip
A claim that LLM's can in a theoretical sense be 100% accurate all the time is not the same as the claim that scaling models with more compute/params will reduce hallucination. The former is a far stronger claim and I agree with the paper in that it probably isn't the case, but we don't rely on general reasoners (a.k.a. humans) to be 100% accurate all the time either.

> No, it can hold more floating point numbers.

Fallacy of composition. Just because an LLM is made up of floating point numbers doesn't mean its capabilities are limited to that of bare floating point numbers, in the same way that the individual faculties of a neuron don't preclude the human brain from emergent properties born from the synthesis of its synapses.

atleastoptimal··on The Permission Slip
I think the use of the word "hallucination" with respect to AI confidently making errors has led a lot of people astray, including the author.

He claims that his company has "solved" hallucination by creating a verifiable fact-finding system, which is like saying that a person has solved plan crashes by creating a plane that never leaves the ground.

When an LLM says something incorrect, it often is due to that LLM reaching the limits of its abilities, but it doesn't "know" (for lack of a better term) what being wrong feels like, so it will try its best to fit the information it has into a compelling story. The reason why scaling leads to fewer hallucinations is that the model can hold more abstractions, more facts about the world, it can work through the complex, vague machinery of reason with more scaffolding, and more of a buffer (via its weights) to reason with nuance. This is why LLM's are useful, not because they can be fed into a fact-retrieval system, but because they can produce new information via the association of things they know.

The point is, we want LLM's to actually produce new information and work out things via their thinking, not be limited to citing facts that already exist and avoid veering into the limits of its abilities. In that sense hallucination is really just exposing the limits of scale, which would necessitate scaling models further.

Scaling is the only way we have gotten to this interesting, emergent property of LLM's. Further, the best way to make small models which don't hallucinate (that we've found so far) is to train a big model first, then distill it, or use it as a teacher to a smaller model. Either way, pursuing scale is the most defensible strategy, and a more robust solution to hallucination.

atleastoptimal··on U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6
I feel this could turn into a patronage system.

Want frontier intelligence? Better not defy the current administration, or your competitors will have access to a better model you could never use.

atleastoptimal··on Jobs and Software Is Fucked
Thinking and consciousness are not the same thing imo. At least in that something can show all the faculties of thought without necessarily being conscious. An LLM can still be useful and give you the useful results you want without being conscious.

Like lets say i gave a human and an LLM a tech spec and the LLM created a software product as good as the human, does it matter that there was consciousness behind the human thinking?

atleastoptimal··on Jobs and Software Is Fucked
> LLMs can’t think

What is your definition of thinking?

atleastoptimal··on AI's Affordability Crisis
These companies biggest source of revenue is per-token pricing though, not subscriptions. On tokens they make a good margin.
atleastoptimal··on Jobs and Software Is Fucked
Yes, sadly the most principled will have to contend with the world passing them by when it turns out those principles are dead weight to capital momentum. You could have made the same point during the dawn of the industrial revolution: that purchasing any product of a machine would be betraying your friends who have spent years honing their craft, but either way, people will still opt for the machine because it's 10x cheaper and faster.

AI is good enough now that you can't claim that you aren't using it because you're upholding some higher standard of quality. It is simply a matter of it offending your sensibilities.

atleastoptimal··on Generative AI Is Having Its Herbalife Moment
> And it is why I will call for his arrest, speedy trial and imprisonment every time I have the misfortune of reading his name. I wish to see this person suffer from the bottom of my heart.

RAM prices were going to go up no matter what given the demand for AI. To so strongly want someone to suffer for fulfilling his fiduciary responsibility to the company he runs seems a bit disproportionate.

> It is undeniable that the entire AI sphere is a bubble, artificially propped up by circular investments and wash trades, and that is now poised to raid pension funds.

I honestly can't take your claims that AI is a huge artificial bubble seriously when you make it very clear how much you want it to be a bubble. The mark of a mature mind is being able to admit that people you personally dislike actually may be right about a few things.

That these people whom you hate so much are also cartoon villains who have taken the entire world economy for a ride is a very satisfying narrative because it implies a future point when all of their crimes will be revealed and they will be held accountable. It is however not a realistic thing to hope for. This is all because of one very real but hard to admit reality: AI is a very useful technology and is worth the billions of dollars that are being paid for it. To deny this reality at this point, when AI models have already proven unsolved Erdos problems and are driving such huge demand on both the consumer and enterprise side, is unreasonable, and consequentially smart people who would otherwise take your points seriously are going to see right through your claims as just being emotional self-soothing.

atleastoptimal··on Generative AI Is Having Its Herbalife Moment
What evidence do you have that Altman, Amodei, Hassabis, etca re hateful?
atleastoptimal··on Generative AI Is Having Its Herbalife Moment
I think in the short term much of the concern for AI replacing jobs was overblown, largely due to two factors

1. Benchmark performance of LLM's and AI models did not fully represent skill in real-world domains

2. Most jobs span far more requirements than their specific job descriptions, many of which lie, even in simple jobs, in the realm of highly adaptive, context rich multi-modal information processing that most humans do still better than AI

However, there is nothing fundamental that prevents LLM's from scaling and improving, aided by better scaffolding, to the point of replacing many white-collar jobs, especially ones which have limited, specific requirements and output parameters. This is an enormous chunk of the white collar work force, and displacement is already happening in limited sections, and will surely continue as AI capabilities diffuse.

It seems however deeply entrenched in many people's identity to deny this fact, because to accept it requires accepting that many of the essential claims of AI CEO's are somewhat true to a degree, and that LLM's are a genuinely useful technology.

atleastoptimal··on Generative AI Is Having Its Herbalife Moment
> in part because of the huckster-like triangulations of scumbags like Sam Altman and Dario Amodei

I would happily read an AI-critical blogpost if it weren't clearly motivated by a strange, specific hatred of the prominent AI figureheads.

At this point I automatically dismiss writing like this, the motivated reasoning is palpable. Their distaste for the character and general vibes of the AI industry trap them in blatant denials of reality, like claiming that AI is a completely worthless technology or surely the bubble will pop any minute now.

I am all for well-researched criticisms of these companies and their claims, but please start at the facts and use them to derive your conclusions, rather than the other way around.

atleastoptimal··on The AI Hate Progression
Extremely strict copyright laws were intended to give the rich and powerful the outcomes they want, allowing corporations to rich themselves on IP gatekeeping. Until the last couple years, it was firmly corporation and wealth aligned to be extremely litigious and offer little leeway for using copyrighted works.
atleastoptimal··on The AI Hate Progression
Let’s say I created a robot that walked around the world and gathered data from its environment. On its way it heard 20 copyrighted songs, looked at 40 copyrighted works. Should I owe royalties to the creators of those 60 works if I were to sell my robot?
atleastoptimal··on The AI Hate Progression
Yes of course, but why do you believe it's not fair use?

The essence of fair use is that it is ok if the use of the copyrighted material is transformative. LLM training I believe is transformative, as it is taking the data (as in a work of text, an image, video), and feeding it through the layers of a neural net to marginally update its weights. It is factoring each work into a very very small fraction of the model's overall sense of the world.

Now, AI models are capable of reproducing copyrighted works to a degree of high accuracy, especially if those works recur very frequently in the training data, but I believe that's a different issue. Any video camera is capable of taking a photo of a copyrighted work, but that isn't essential to the value of the camera, though it is undeniably what certain cameras are used for. The exact reproduction of copyrighted works is a likewise something that LLM's can do, as any intelligent person could recite song lyrics or a work if they memorized it, but each individual work is only marginal to the overall effectiveness and value proposition of the model.

atleastoptimal··on OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B
WHy would there be riots in the streets?
atleastoptimal··on The AI Hate Progression
It's funny how worked up people get about copyright with respect to to AI training when using copyrighted material for training an AI model is fair use. We have a concept of fair use in copyright because economic growth is essentially tied to the free proliferation of information.

I can't really trust any anti-AI argument when it feels more of a tribal grievance than a rational explanation of concern. Especially with the overuse of the "techbro" pejorative, it seems more a lament against a certain type of attidude in the tech world and a hatred that that attitude has translated into massive material wealth.

atleastoptimal··on OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B
Everyone's financial literacy seems to evaporate when discussing AI companies. They assume that companies need to be profitable or they're a bubble waiting to burst.

The whole point of the company is that they are investing a huge amount of money upfront in order to make models that are better and better, and thus have a higher productivity multiplier.

They are very profitable on inference, they just know that the race to AGI requires a huge amount of investment, compute, getting the best researchers, etc.

atleastoptimal··on Only 16 Percent of Americans Think AI Will Have a Positive Impact on Society
They are having no problems raising capital. People are offering up their homes to get Anthropic stock.

>It is not ok to lobby and manipulate governments for fiscal policy changes to write off the costs and risks on the general public.

How are they doing this? What are you referring to?

atleastoptimal··on Only 16 Percent of Americans Think AI Will Have a Positive Impact on Society
It is the 5th most commonly visited website in the world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-visited_websites

atleastoptimal··on Sixty percent of US consumers say 'AI' in brand messaging is a turnoff
I don't understand people claiming all this "the average consumer doesn't like AI" stuff is useful at all, when AI companies are making stratospheric revenue, and ChatGPT is the 5th most visited website.
atleastoptimal··on Only 16 Percent of Americans Think AI Will Have a Positive Impact on Society
They didn't overestimate the interest. ChatGPT is extremely popular and notable.

>The tech industry doesn't speak for the entire planet

Of course they don't, but they are still allowed to make a product, and pivot if there's no consumer demand. However there is huge consumer and business demand for AI so they are justified in making the investments they are.

atleastoptimal··on Ask HN: What Jobs (Roles) are in the best position to take advantage of AI?
Anything where the demand grows in proportion to increased use of AI, and whose supply of labor is not supplemented as quickly by AI enhanced/replaced productivity.
atleastoptimal··on Peopleless economy? Not technically impossible
Many people don't realize that the human-legible economy is not the end goal to the fate of wealth and productivity in the known universe.

The economy is human-serving and human-legible because humans are a universal bottleneck to productivity and wealth creation. Once humans are no longer this bottleneck, the economy will begin to serve other interests, as those other interests will be the source of far more productivity than humans (i.e. AI agents, robots, etc)

If people understood this they'd understand that the "permanent underclass" notion is farcical: Human capital will not be allowed to be what allows productivity to commence or halt in a future that is 1000x more efficient and fast-moving due to AI. Any AI smart enough to do such will not wait on humans to give them permission with their money.

atleastoptimal··on Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
It's crazy that people's anti-AI bias has got them rooting for the current administration just because it appeases their desire to see AI labs fail.
atleastoptimal··on Pirates, a naval warfare game inspired by Sid Meier's Pirates
I feel like difficulty progression would help.
atleastoptimal··on Ask HN: Is anyone shorting the overspend in AI yet?
Betting against deep learning has been a losing game over the past 5 years.

As long as the models keep getting better, you will keep losing betting against them.

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