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lol. AI just started in the kind of usage being discussed in this thread, how would it make any difference on something that is quarterly reviewed

That seems like a you problem

No one cares about this kind of stuff. 99% of the devs are not English native speakers, what do you expect ? It works and we all can understand it

Python existed for years before uv with a huge ecosystem, and will continue to do so after/if it dies

Do you feel sad for people who use a computer or a cellphone or file taxes online instead of paper ? How is this any different ?

I use those tools to make my life easier/faster

That's true. Except that you can have Agents doing it 24/7 with no human input. The amount of repos/PRs is only limited by GPUs

Isn't that the premise of Fallout ?

How much are you spending ? See initial post of the thread. My team has no problems with it, they are spending each 5-10k per month.

I think the output of companies that can invest on tokens vs those who cannot will lead to crazy different outcomes in the next few years.

Why read code when you are getting results fast ? See https://steve-yegge.medium.com/welcome-to-gas-town-4f25ee16d...

I am not kidding. People don't seem to understand what's actually happening in our industry. See https://www.linkedin.com/posts/johubbard_github-eleutherailm...

If you are not spending 5-10k dollars a month for interesting projects, you likely won't see interesting results

Yes I absolutely love it.

Right that's fair. But you can browse websites made with the technology of that time -- maybe ?

Or work with it disconnected on other bits... but yeah. The world you're connecting to has changed..

These are just agents with a different name ? People have been working like that today.

You can buy the same hardware today and do whatever you want with it.

Why do you think the world is going to shit ? Maybe disconnect from the internet a little bit ?

Life has never been safer and better for majority of the population in the world, what good does it do to you to keep engaging with content that makes you feel bad ?

"Live frugally" , "FIRE" , "work in tech"

All incompatible with 99% of the upper class, neither do they want to eat ramen to retire early.

You're also one medical disaster away from being "very very wrong"

If that's his value add as a manager then that's a problem in itself

Do you think that won't happen ?

As a very silly example, my father in law has a school in Mexico and he is now using chatgtp to generate all of their visual materials that they used to pay someone to do in the past.

They also used to pay someone to take school pictures for the books to look professional, now they use AI to make it look good/professional.

My father in law has no knowledge in technology, he uses chatgtp daily to do professional work for his school. That's already 2 jobs gone.

People must be hiding under a rock if they don't think this will have big consequences to society

lol if you feel that high competitive fields have less idiots on average. Regardless not a good take, world is not mathematics, there are many axis to people

Why wouldn't someone ?

There's people spending 5k a month on tokens, if you're work generates 7-8 figures per year, that's peanuts and companies will happily pay for that per engineer

We are paid to solve business problems and make money.

People who enjoy writing code can still do so, just not on a business context if there's a more optimal way

Why limit to LLMs and agents ?

This is true about everything you see advertised to you.

When I went to opensource conference (or whatever it was called) in San Diego ~8y ago, there were so many Kubernetes people. When you talked with them nobody was actually using k8s in production and were clearly devrel/paid people.

Now it seems to be everywhere... so be careful with what you ignore too

Yes, you are probably doing wrong if you even care about the code at this point. Read https://steve-yegge.medium.com/welcome-to-gas-town-4f25ee16d...

The article is a bit over the top, but several people on my company/team are doing exactly that approach, and have built similar orchestrators

Except there's been way too much investment to trick the human brain into that consumption, so it is not a fair fight - that's true both for food and for tech. There are countless documentaries, books and articles on this. You're bringing a knife to a gunfight

This is not true. You can see people who are much older and built a lot of the "internet scale" equally excited about it, e.g: freebsd OG developers, Steve himself (who wrote gas town) etc.

In fact, I would say I've seen more people who are "OG Coders" excited (and in their >50s) then mid generation

lol same. I just wrote a bunch of diagrams with mermaid that would legit take me a week, also did a mock of an UI for a frontend engineer that would take me another week to do .. or some designers. All of that in between meetings...

Waiting for it to actually go well to see what else I can do !

That's an amazing website, I just spent 30 minutes reading all of its content. Thank you for sharing ! I haven't been to a lan party in probably 20 years and made me jealous !

reddit experiencedevs maybe ?