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alexyang21

179 karma · joined March 28, 2012

Co-founder @ Tapioca (trytapioca.com), where I'm working to improve engineering hiring. Previously built project-based video courses that taught 20k people to code in Rails, and worked for companies big (Google, BCG) and small (2-50 employees). Here on HN, I mostly lurk but try to comment on something or other once a year.

Feel free to get in touch directly: alexyang.personal@gmail.com

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alexyang21··on Ask HN: Making money with ebooks and video courses vs. writing apps?
I agree - the deep discounts lower average engagement by a lot. From what I've seen, most students who binge-purchase don't actually start learning from the courses they buy.
alexyang21··on Ask HN: Making money with ebooks and video courses vs. writing apps?
I'm a Udemy instructor and now create video content full-time (baserails.com). I remember doing the same math (e.g. 10k students x $200 each = $2M!...and in only 6 months!). I was floored that these instructors were making so much money. In hindsight, I realize that I made 3 key mistakes in my assumptions:

1. Even if it's a paid course, that doesn't mean that all students paid money. Udemy instructors have the ability to give out free coupons to help in marketing their courses. Since it's in Udemy's best interest to boost their displayed course enrollment numbers, signing up a free account and 'purchasing' a course for free is really easy. I wouldn't be surprised if some instructors use a script to automate this process and enroll thousands of fake students.

2. Even if people do pay, almost no one pays full price (and the price you see may not have been the price at launch). Udemy gives frequent and deep discounts ("50% off all courses for Udemy's 4th birthday!", "70% off because summer's out and the school year ended!", "90% off select courses just because it's October!"). Many Udemy users are 'course collectors' - they'll purchase a bunch of courses at once when it's on discount, in case they may want to learn those skills in the future.

3. Udemy gets a bigger cut than you think. While instructors keep 100% of revenue from customers they bring to Udemy, the majority of your students will be Udemy users you don't know. For these purchases, instructors receive 25% or 50% of the purchase price (depending on whether Udemy did any marketing), with an additional discount if the course was purchased on a mobile device.

Don't build a course to 'get rich quick' - do it only if you actually like teaching.

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