airhead969

OMG, you win the internet for today. Haha.

If we can respectfully disagree and see each other's point-of-views without ghosting each other, then we're dialoguin'. Otherwise, we're just talking past each other, seeking karma brownie points, or taking out our frustrations.. and then what point is there to participating if there isn't meaningful communication?

That's definitely true. Without messing up a good thing (HN), I wonder though how similar community platforms could be constructed incrementally better in terms of reasonableness, fairness, ethical/principled/respectful debate, curiosity, quality people, and signal.

It might be bad analogies but the lack of flash a-la Drudge Report (haven't seen it in years) or the old Fry's Electronics (stores and their website). I think it somewhat deters engagement addiction and focuses on content.

Yes, I was there. :) 23 years ago ;) I meant some sort of mechanism to improve the training/fairness/consistency of moderators rather than merely double-checking them.

I also wonder, but perhaps some of these may approximate more "utopianish" collective community integration:

- Genuine hippie communes (Do kibbutzes count?)

- Amish

- Indigenous tribes where elders are respected

- Rural/suburban Minnesotans because they tend towards hardy dealing with life and climate struggles and unimpressed by immodesty

- In the old days (80's/90's), my grandparents knew most of their neighbors, grocery store cashiers, butcher, hair stylist, and a number of other people well. What ever happened to that? I don't even know any of the neighbors in my apartment complex despite introducing myself, and one (Louis Vuitton-strutting cliché) woman neighbor next door won't even acknowledge my presence with pleasantries in passing. WTH.

I guess the issue is keeping moderation consistent (like bar exam grading) coupled with a manageable size of community that handles scaling. I wonder if social media platforms could cluster 10-25 people together into "troops" with a "troop leader" and a "guidance counselor." This way, it's not just a sea of individuals floating along ephemerally disconnected, but brings some tribal belonging and support back that people yearn for.

I think you're partially right.

HN started niche and attracted a narrow audience intent on productive communication; mostly college grads and/or positive attitude people (successful attributes, even if a bit rowdy and troublemaking at times), and not many lottery ticket buyers [1]. It is very open, so it could be overwhelmed by less signal crowds over time should it hit mainstream visibility.

Do some platforms need to limit the number of participants and do stack-ranking dismissals? IIRC, the ASW platform culled a bunch of accounts.

There have been studies on social media interactions (I can't recall the links atm, and am almost done posting from the loo :) and "captological" aspects that influence people's online perception, behaviors, and reactions. I think the problems are the people, the power they're given, the presence/lack of fairness they perceive, what they're presented with, and whether or not the community defends itself and its values strongly (I think dang does a Herculean job with this).

[1] Best characterizes the lottery ticket phenomenon: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23393875

Yup. I think, as others like Chris Hedges have noted, individuals in Western society have become increasingly atomized and isolated, likely by design to sell more products and keep people feeling powerless/helpless: we're so close (in physical and online proximity), but so far (ideologically, wisdom, knowledge, and experience).

Instead of lionizing celebrities, money, infamy, or hyper individualism, maybe it would be worth respecting wisdom, mastery, expertise, monetary-agonistic accomplishment, and insightfulness.

The book The Mirror Effect by Dr. Drew comes to mind.

Twitter (and nearly every "social" media platform) is like democracy: a sewer hose of manufactured consent, ignorance, mob stupidity, disinformation, and bot-automated propaganda that you'll need more than a shower or 3 to rinse-off.

I gave up and blew up all of my "social" media because they didn't serve any purpose.

Maybe an invite-only platform could have higher signal with:

- multiple "vouches" of others to get an invitation

- frequency/reputation micropayment cost to post

- reputation/karma that isn't apparent or chased, and granted some with the invite

- elimination of pile-on

- multifaceted voting based on specific aspects of relevance, agreement, and insight

- humor voted/tagged and filtered by readers to avoid using dv for that

- dv has moderator-visible reasoning to double-check and prevent spurious dv

- prevention of dv retribution

- reduced anonymity (first name and picture) for higher-quality interactions

- mediation and de-escalation facilities such as pre-comment emotional content scanning (AI-based sarcasm detection would rock), posting delay of 2 hours, and side chats

- login required to view content, no search engine spidering

- operate as a sustainable nonprofit to avoid pressures of corporate profiteering

- servers and legally based in a country the US and EU cannot control

Lmao. It's true. This is why I don't have identifiable social media and don't use it even anonymously except for limited purposes. Cyberdisinhibitionism is strongest when there are no repercussions to poor behavior, too much anonymity, flame/troll/instigators/touchy comments, and no manifestation of the person on the receiving-end. It's basically a sewer factory factory with a teaspoon of sugar sprinkled-in. I think it proves that either most people are disengaged and/or the most vocal people are the worst. (Proving your point). Maybe there should be a cost to post that increases proportional to increasing frequency too.

The irony is, translating to IRL, I apparently discovered I have this semi-employed, "macho" no-shirt neighbor who accused me of being racist for asking if they had an entrance keyfob to prevent tailgating into an access-controlled apartment building. Then they talked about all the (nonexistent) "cameras" around, began recording me (for what, I don't know), using racist slurs, and tried to start a physical fight (they're half my weight, like a yappy chihuahua). I'm wondering if they're schizophrenic and narcissistic, in addition to appearing like a victim-mentality crybully crybaby. My point is perhaps people are taking their online behaviors into the real world.

PS: You should've heard what Latinx gangbangers called me when I was a kid. I never got beaten-up because I was bigger than all of them, but I learned the finer points of swearing in Spanish. :) I understand the tall blade of grass gets clipped so I don't take any of it personally.

Oh my, here we go again: conflating aliens with "huh?"

Show the damn aliens (or their robotic emissaries) or keep the triangle-chinned, bulbous head stickers stuck to VW vans.

I bet someone is having a good laugh trolling the US military or trolling the public.

Lol. Probably. And MASH.

Single Packet Authorization doesn't claim to do anything about encryption, authentication, integrity, auditing, or anything else.

Leave ambiguous terminology hair-splitting at the door and get to specifics.

It's securing the keyhole of the padlock. No sense moving the padlock around when it can be closed to begin-with, and opened with a special knock that is extremely complicated: time, service, and identifies which user.

Port knocking on top of VPN, SSL, SSH, Wireguard, or whatever. You don't do this with telnet because common sense. Duh!

Why bother? Why not just use SPA secure port knocking with GPG users and expiring tickets that just hides the port completely using firewall rules unless authorized? fwknop is just one example, and it works for any and all services.

Also, there are these internal network creation systems called VPNs.

Sensitive ports should be guarded behind VPNs on private networks. And, the VPN port itself should be guarded with SPA port knocking.

Stop putting ssh on everything and on public IPs on the actual public internet. Don't do this. Do you know how many weeks were spent cleaning-up after idiots who did this with desktops contracting W32/Blaster? One "secured" Oracle database box on a public IP got an unknown trojan rootkit Mark Russinovich was like: what is this voodoo that they do? The "only" solution, since it "couldn't ever be taken down," was to block everything it didn't explicitly need to function and general outbound internet access. Lack of security, idempotent automation of configuration management, and restoration caused these issues. It languished on for years with what effectively was an "endogenous retrovirus" that "couldn't" be removed.

My next door Danish neighbors learned English in the late 70's and early 80's by watching TV.

The guy worked at Spectra-Physics and drove a Wankel Mazda RX-7 that he backed-in to their garage.

Well, growing up in SJC/SV/SF, nonnative speakers were many: roommates, girlfriends, coworkers, and more. Heck, one of my first girlfriends and I could barely communicate verbally: but it wasn't really a problem when gestures, simple words, and "thought synchronization" explained ideas more efficiently and succinctly than learning each others' complex languages.

The other thing is immersion doesn't necessarily seem like a good predictor of language mastery: one roommate had trouble speaking English, despite living in the US for 10 years, while his older brother, who had never been to an English-speaking country before, sounded like he was completely American. This maybe anecdotal but there seems to be an incredible amount of variation in language and accent mastery that doesn't improve with experience (or above a fuzzy, certain age).

The State of California can bite my grandparents' vintage leaded crystal decanters without the Jameo or Glenlivet 12.

Edit: lead.. mmm. Yeah, I probably should only use them to serve, rather than store, to prevent bottle-chuggers.

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/it-dangerous-store-alcohol...

Also, wash your hands like after leaded soldering when handling the exteriors of alcoholic beverage containers:

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2019-06-2...

Pilots, flight attendants, and passengers on the Concorde.

Concrete.

Radon.

Oh noes, a kid brought a banana to school. Call the hazmat team!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose

Edit: The BER of an average piece of 25% U glass is about 1300 bananas.

If it were possible to extract and enrich K40 from say 100 million bananas, you could kill everyone in the vicinity of it with a LD.

40 lbs box = 120 bananas at $13. So say $0.10 each. For a minimum investment of $10 million USD, you could have enough radioactive K40 to do some damage.. buried in tons of regular potassium that is expensive to enrich. Instead, for $10k / g, one could buy 1 kg of K40... if they could prove it was for a legitimate purpose.

I have one of those Geiger counters in disrepair.

The great security against a gradual concentration of the several powers in the same department, consists in giving to those who administer each department the necessary constitutional means and personal motives to resist encroachments of the others. The provision for defense must in this, as in all other cases, be made commensurate to the danger of attack. Ambition must be made to counteract ambition. The interest of the man must be connected with the constitutional rights of the place. It may be a reflection on human nature, that such devices should be necessary to control the abuses of government. But what is government itself, but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. A dependence on the people is, no doubt, the primary control on the government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions. - James Madison

No. It's a problem of excessively-corrupt, under-regulation of individual greed that only a professional, more "angelic," functional, legitimate, ethical, and sensible human social structure (government) can and must limit fairly to prevent a few individuals from hoarding treasure and destroying others. When a few rich individuals effectively own the government in all but name, they own enough power to make it do their bidding and block anyone else from challenging them. They will never relinquish such power willingly because they "need" it to protect themselves and their greed and entitlement makes them believe it's theirs alone. Revolutionary communism probably isn't the answer, but revolutionary sensible something else might be. There is no other way except extremely clever chicanery to remove the influence of billionaires.

Nothing has changed in the principles or human nature; only the culture, fashions, laws, power, technologies, income, and wealth distribution... and especially that nearly all of the controls have failed pertaining to the regulations of gaining and amassing excessive wealth (taxes and such), and purchasing influence (campaign finance reform, etc.). Thankfully, there is not yet an Emperor who decided to not leave after their term, so some controls on power related to government are operating as designed (but for how long?)

Revolutionary communism or similar without full control would simply assassinate one billionaire after another until they understood the message clearly: that their personal survival depends on them returning a large fraction of their looted treasure and all control back to a government independent from corporate influences.

It's a fairly incomplete and myopic treatment.

The issue is the drug of absurdly-profund, narcissistic entitlement, beyond greed, married with power it affords and corrupts creates a vicious cycle of vampiric extraction and unlimited desire for even more than is necessary for one or a million people. They then strangle and squeeze millions of people in multitudes of ways and destroy the planet for the self-righteous, vainglory, insular belief in one's omnipotent and omniscient destiny. Meanwhile, their thinking exists in an extremely narrow filter bubble divorced from reality of the existential threats their empires and systems create, risking ecocidal, omnicidal, and suicidal collapse for vaults of accumulated, stolen, and hoarded treasure.

Number 9 (not The Beatles thing) is supported by the Texas Senate and Abbott will sign it: criminalizing homelessness.

This has been posted over-and-over. Enough.

To disambiguate: I don't mean formal verification like seL4, I mean it hasn't been thoroughly audited to show it is reasonably secure. Docker security of images and running containers is pretty shit as I brought up on GH in the beginning. Developers just shrugged it off and focused on whiz-bang features.

The conflation of what amounts to fancy Linux cgroups trickery with hypervisors is a depressing misunderstanding of isolation.

Impatience due to rules not applying to them. And delay is often some form of BS. "Strategic" impatience when patience encourages faster results. (Manipulating people on the highway to drive faster or change lanes through various techniques.)

Nothing precludes actual fierceness rather than strictly fitting to an archetype. I used to illegally street race for cash. I can detail strip most Glocks, ARs, and AKs, and fire each without occluded aiming. Grandfathers were both competition military wheel gun marksmen. There are such people as nerdy bodybuilders.

I took the SAT-I without any preparation (absolutely zero) and aced the math section, 5 on AP Calc BC with minimal preparation at school; no coaches, no practice tests, and no bootcamp classes after school. My school was supposed to be good but it sucked in one particular way as it picked me through testing to represent a math tournament but sent me completely unprepared in the fields and subject matter, it was embarrassing. I was usually the lone white dude amongst mostly Asian and Indian overachievers who had rich af parents with every sort of coach and social help. I road a steel-framed bicycle to school 4 miles each way everyday, they had hand-me-down BMWs and Mercedes parked in the school parking lot.

The other issue is like BUD/S and specops, the people told they couldn't or were unsuited also tend to be the ones with the most heart. Someone can't wish to be more fluidly-intelligent, but they can become more relentlessly-resourceful and dog-with-a-bone. Wisdom, experience, and mastery trends to swamp raw intelligence as someone ages... plus, fluid intelligence tends to decline.

The US is the most corrupt because it has the high incarceration rate on the planet except Seychelles. Prisoners are almost exclusively men who are minorities or poor.

Like the Reagans, the greater society doesn't care about anything unless it affects them. So, they're perfectly fine with degrading, exploitative warehousing and slavery of humans for profit.

"I smell marijuana. Step out of the vehicle, sir, while I scratch your doors and tear up your seats."

Docker containers aren't provably secure. If you want isolation, use a VM that doesn't have host file system access. This way, if the VM is compromised, just throw it away and it can't leak out the way containers do.

-akx

https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/ssh.1.html