agrover

I'm a C/Python person, and it did take a question on irc for me to get my head around how Rust does it, but now it seems so natural that it's a little irksome to look at some of my Python code :)

source? I thought the next step was 40G?

I disagree.

Rocket uses a tarball.

h1b makes switching jobs difficult.

Gnome needs a dbus api that currently only systemd supports, which is not quite the same thing.

Solaris is dead but Illumos lives on kinda.

easier in Postgresql, with its foreign data wrapper capability.

I think the fallacy is looking at the composability of tools on the command line and thinking you want/need the same composability in how the system runs. You don't. The Unix Way is actually TWO things: one is shellscripting and the composability of the command line, and the other is C and libraries. "Whipupitude vs manipulexity", to quote Larry Wall. Systemd is the result of determining that running system services is complex and needs to be handled by a real program instead of scripts. This is easier in C, but the flipside is the unavoidable loss of whipupitude. For most people this is fine. When Unix was young, whipping up something simple was fine. Now it isn't, and really hasn't been for quite a long time.

It's not about sexism, it's about decreasing "geek machismo" that has existed in the community, and how this helps more people be comfortable putting themselves out there and having a technical discussion (where there is always a nonzero chance one is wrong) in public.

fwiw the Kernelnewbies list and irc is another good place to start for civil kernel discussion. I would suggest that common to both it and Linuxchix is the belief that no matter what the questioner or respondents' level of expertise, the only possible response to a question is a positive, helpful one.

Ah, I misremembered, "nobreak", not "notfound".

Raymond Hettinger, one of the main Python devs, advises that the "else" in this situation should mentally be thought of as "notfound".

I thought the libressl devs thought it was a mistake to even try to fall back -- the code should use OS-provided random numbers, and if they're not there, give up. If so, I'm a little surprised to hear libressl is trying harder than openssl.

well it doesn't say "do not cut n paste" :)

On one hand, cool! On the other hand, uncool, if it encourages more people to have their programs interact with other programs via CLI parsing. We should be using APIs and libraries instead of working around the lack of them.

tool libraries like http://neptl.org/ ?

packaged as python-sh in Fedora 17+

but do we geta refund??? Doesn't look likely.

Fedora.

google voice integration for sprint does this, I don't see how this is better.

ctrl-F Rust

...nothing? ok here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_language

At what point do we consider those 347 residents as an invasive species?

two-factor auth helps?

how long does it take to compile the linux kernel?