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I think there's a legitimate desire in wanting to avoid "politics". It's a more specific instance of avoiding the trap described by 'perfect is the enemy of good'. Here's a good Tumblr post to which I linked earlier today in a similar HN thread:

- [The Grey Tribe — Activism, Accessibility, Setting Good...](https://the-grey-tribe.tumblr.com/post/175038067648/activism...)

It might be kinda something like a natural law:

- [Great Oxygenation Event - Wikiwand](https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Great_Oxygenation_Event)

This is a really annoying behavior. Not every project needs or even should be perfect along every dimension that you or anyone else cares about.

Would you also find it to be a problem if they held a meeting and didn't serve fair trade coffee? Should they expel any members with politics you find objectionable? Must they demand that everyone give up their iOS and Android devices too because they're surveillance instruments and running non-free software too?

Here's a good Tumblr post this made me think of:

- [The Grey Tribe — Activism, Accessibility, Setting Good...](https://the-grey-tribe.tumblr.com/post/175038067648/activism...)

I'm pretty sure you're wrong about your example being legally impossible.

And you might be right that the robocar companies aren't trying to program their cars to drive strictly legally for every possible situation, it is in fact a reasonable presumption.

Why bother slurring another site? There are plenty of good faith discussions happening on Reddit.

I'll (mostly) grant you that the speech is "really just a disguised essay that summarizes everything you already have figured out", but I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Good rhetoric is redundant.

I also don't think it's a problem that it "does it really slowly" or that the book itself, overall, has "taken its sweet time".

Because of all of the above, I disagree that "it's a waste of the reader's time".

Unfortunately (or maybe not), it's a common enough violation of 'convention' that authors write an [Author Filibuster](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AuthorFilibuster) or [Author Tract](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AuthorTract).

But of course I can defend it by arguing that it's realistic in its length or tone. Real people really do give long-winded political speeches! And the story supports it too! And look, there I went, defending that part of the book.

Long speeches tho were really once more common. I don't have a lot of 'feel' for this tho because I don't even listen to contemporary speeches (because I much prefer being able to read a transcript much more quickly).

So every restaurant that serves breakfast at 7a should be closed down? Or should we prosecute the owners and managers of these restaurants too?

Obviously we should also prohibit security guards from being forced to work before ... 9a? or after ... 6p?

I think you're missing that the relevant people would already be working at these times regardless of any extra large orange juice orders needing to be filled.

I got from the post that one could, and probably should, perform the test using a real project, ideally the project for which one wants to hire the person being interviewed. Or, that one could use a plausible (and related) project or sub-project to similarly gauge the interviewee's response.

I'm confused as to why you're reacting so hostilely.

> My point is more about how do you equate the level of difficulty of 700 glasses of freshly squeezed orange juice to software or anything else? At what point are you just a lying?

Who's equating the difficulty of the contrived example to anything else? Beyond equating them both as something that's difficult but not impossible?

I don't know your background but I'd imagine you might be able to understand, or know, that migrating a company, or even a small group or a single person, from one software system to another is often a difficult project. I can certainly appreciate the advice to immediately dismiss anyone from consideration for helping me with such a project if they tell me that the migration is either 'impossible' or 'easy'.

> great community but a bit too nice

Too nice? Care to elaborate?

'Free speech' isn't strictly a legal ideal.

People still murder each other fairly commonly. I imagine that's the sense in which similar bad human behaviors should be expected to persist indefinitely.

> raw chicken, diapers, feces, shoes in the house

That last one isn't like the others! You could almost certainly safely lick the bottom of your shoes (assuming you hadn't just literally stepped in shit).

You'll probably need to give them an ultimatum. My SO isn't as extreme, at least in the same ways, but I need to constantly police the boundaries of their obsessions and, gently, push back against them to the degree I think they can handle.

> I still have one terrible one but it doesn't let me talk about it or bad things will happen.

Fuck; you're being held hostage by a compulsion? That's tragic.

> release-the-magic-smoke catastrophic

What's your source for the first part of this phrase?

Surely the reasonable behavior would be to NOT subsidize any of these things. Your point tho is (sadly) correct.

I was thinking of all of the files in proprietary, and particularly binary, formats. Maybe some users know that even those files can be opened by multiple applications, when that's even true, but I suspect even more users don't even realize that almost all of their data is stored in a file somewhere, let alone where that file is in the filesystem and in what format it's stored.

Given the ubiquity of Word document and Powerpoint presentation files and the like, most users I'll grant you are aware of the files themselves, and the fact that they can be attached to an email. I'll even grant that a large fraction of those same users could answer 'yes' to the question 'Could these files be opened by another application?'. But almost none would be capable of doing anything with those files without an application that handles everything for them.

I don't dispute tho that an awareness of, let alone existence of, files in a filesystem is a significant benefit and not having access to them is a (relatively) significant loss.

'1984' is a particular type of dystopian; it has specific connotations, associations, etc.

> The true form of the data is forever hidden from me, a secret of the application that "owns" it.

But that's been true for almost all users, and not just webapp users, forever.

"1984" also just means 'dystopian'. It's not always a literal reference to that specific work.

Did you mean something by "execution environment" that wouldn't allow arbitrary programs to run but would allow bootloaders? I'd imagine the simplest way to run bootloaders would be to just run them like anything else.

If releases are the primary means by which bug fixes are distributed then a slow release pace means a slow pace at which bugs are fixed.

Otherwise, I too enjoy the stability of using working tools that don't necessitate a lot of fast-paced changes.

I'm guessing he's working with other people; a "team" perhaps. Consultants are, sometimes, hired to work for or with companies; even for long periods!

Leaflet is the open source base/core version of mapbox-gl-js; they're both maintained by Mapbox people.

Your comment seems like an attempt at emotional manipulation and propaganda for your particular politics. Your argument doesn't seem to reasonably distinguish between good or bad behavior generally.

> Someone began impersonating me using my full name on blogger

There are a lot of people in the world so the odds of someone having the same full name as anyone else isn't that low. Was this person impersonating you specifically beyond claiming that they have the same name?

So you're upset that Google hasn't been charging a lot more all along?

Are you claiming that it's perfectly reasonable to consider the entire solar system basically as 'inside the sun'?

That's a very non-standard usage.