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I get the sense that OpenAI is astroturfing “outrage and hypocrisy” in this thread.

The dead internet is alive and well.

Literally a feature being advertised as of today.

The most likely and capable retaliation will be cyber/info wars.

Iran has sophisticated influence operations and will likely flood social media with disinformation designed to deepen political divisions and erode trust in institutions.

This advice serves even if you don’t believe the above. Be deeply skeptical of all viral content in the coming days and weeks, especially anything designed to change your opinions, or provoke outrage/fear. Verify before sharing. Expect deepfakes. Stick to primary sources when possible.

This kind of screams desperation, but I guess that's what happens when you're niche AI.

If you’re not aware of what it’s good at, given what very smart people are saying and doing with it, I think you’re either not paying attention or aren’t being intellectually honest with yourself

And most artists using the tools are still training LoRAs for Flux, Qwen, ZIT/ZIB, etc. Nano Banana is a useful tool, but not for the best work.

Once you begin to see the “model” as only part of the stack, you begin to realize that you can draw the line of the system to include the user as well.

That’s when the future really starts hitting you.

Elon announced this so he could troll the comments on HN and get all of this incredibly valuable armchair expertise in solving his problems.

You like science?

Then test Omarchy.

The Wit and Wisdom of Charlie Munger is a good place to start.

Shane's mental models books are packed with a lot of random/disparate domains/insights -- He's a good aggregator there.

Thinking in Systems by Meadows.

Really, once you go down the rabbit hole, you find new threads to pull. That's kind of the fun of it

FS was a major part of me getting into Munger and building out my web of mental models.

Will always be grateful to Shane for that!

Hello there!

Have you heard of our lord and savior, Linux?

This is one of those fun "achsully" responses I get the privilege to refute.

It's a foundational principle of copyright law, codified in 17 U.S.C. § 102(b): "In no case does copyright protection for an original work of authorship extend to any idea, procedure, process, system, method of operation, concept, principle, or discovery"

Now, we can quibble over what qualifies there, but the dichotomy itself is pretty clear.

This goes back to Baker v. Selden (1879) and remains bedrock copyright doctrine.

The Tetris case is overstated. Tetris v. Xio did not establish that The Tetris Company "owns the idea of falling-tetromino puzzle video games." The court explicitly applied the idea-expression dichotomy and found Xio copied specific expressive choices (exact dimensions, specific visual style, particular piece colors). Many Tetris-like games exist legally, and it is the specific expressive elements that were considered in the Xio case.

K.C. Munchkin is old and criticized. That 1982 ruling predates major developments like Computer Associates v. Altai, which established more rigorous methods for filtering out unprotectable elements. The Munchkin decision continues to be debated.

"Substantial similarity" analysis itself incorporates idea-expression filtering. Courts use tests specifically designed to separate protectable expression from unprotectable ideas, especially when considering the four factors of fair use (when applied as a defense.)

GenAI changes the dynamics of information systems so fundamentally that our entire notion of intellectual property is being upended.

Copyright was predicated on the notion that ideas and styles can not be protected, but that explicit expressive works can. For example, a recipe can't be protected, but the story you wrap around it that tells how your grandma used to make it would be.

LLMs are particularly challenging to wrangle with because they perform language alchemy. They can (and do) re-express the core ideas, styles, themes, etc. without violating copyright.

People deem this 'theft' and 'stealing' because they are trying to reconcile the myth of intellectual property with reality, and are also simultaneously sensing the economic ladder being pulled up by elites who are watching and gaming the geopolitical world disorder.

There will be a new system of value capture that content creators need to position for, which is to be seen as a more valuable source of high quality materials than an LLM, serving a specific market, and effectively acquiring attention to owned properties and products.

It will not be pay-per-crawl. Or pay-per-use. It will be an attention game, just like everything in the modern economy.

Attention is the only way you can monetize information.

In recent months, with any computer that runs into Windows issues, I just take it as sign that its time for me to format it and install linux.

+1 - zit in invoke has been amazing to use

| Long-term value: We do not optimize for time spent in ChatGPT. We prioritize user trust and user experience over revenue.

The unspoken part -- This holds true so long as revenue is at least equal to costs, and speaks nothing about whether user trust and user experience is optimized over profit.

This type of behavior contaminates all sense-making, not just machine sense-making, and is a prime example of the naive neo-Luddite making their mark on the world.

It will not halt progress, and will do harm in the process. /shrug

To each their own.

I find Omarchy to simply "make sense" out of the box for me. And, I've never used a tiling WM before it (and feel crazy for not having done so)

As some advice to prepare for - if this moves any demand from their enterprise pipeline, the n8n team will be looking for ways to add friction to your life and this project.

The easiest will be giving notice that you’re using n8n in the name of the project, and their lawyers will say that this poses great confusion and false affiliation and besmirches their good name etc. etc.

Not sure it’ll happen, but best be prepared and put some headers in that you’re not affiliated, are a community extension, etc

All good - just interested in what the theory is behind it, and how effective it is purported to be.

Thanks for sharing your experience!

Any evidence supporting “higher performance”?

MIT is not copyleft. The copyright notice must be included for those incorporated elements, but other downstream code it remains part of can be licensed however it wants.

AGPL and GPL are, on the other hand, as you describe.

Same.

If you’re able to self host and run the tool for any use, it’s effectively a free, extensible, modifiable software solution.

Copyleft licenses are as restrictive as the license DHH put out with Fizzy. I’m an Apache 2.0 or MIT licensing OSS advocate myself, but it’s difficult to argue that it’s worse or equal to a fully closed SaaS solution.

It’s not even remotely close to one of these bullshit “ee” OSS licenses

Amen.

I can assure you that inference is not profitable if the user is paying nothing.

Subjective. Most in creative industries regularly still use SDXL.

Once Z-image base comes out and some real tuning can be done, I think it has a chance of replacing it for the function SDXL has

Yes - If you're willing to allow that AI might be a tool in the artistic process if it is used in conjunction with intent and effort, then we are at a reasonable position -- That stating "all AI is slop" is as inarticulate and insufficient as the claim of "look at what I made, I'm an artist!" coming from someone who typed in a four word prompt.

The majority of people using AI believe that production itself is art. They produce slop because they have no craft, no taste, and no innate talent.

Artists recognize that art requires the development of craft and taste - and there are many that see AI as a tool that can be used in that process.

Modify or organize your prompts? lol - I don't think you have any familiarity with the tooling landscape in AI media gen.

I'll do you one better - I'll cite someone who has changed their mind.

https://deadline.com/2025/04/james-cameron-use-ai-cut-cost-f...

I'll note I used no pejorative terms to describe you in order to make my points. I don't need to cast you as a villain or "unwise" individual to argue against the statements themselves.

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Your framing of AI presumes that my proposal is prompt in >> art out. False frame.

You also state "near universal" disdain of AI from people with "actual" talent. A bold claim to make with little data, and at least for me, clear examples of being false.

I know award-winning directors, iconic creatives, and career/professional artists who are all excited by the technology, exploring ways to use it, and learning how to composite it into their work.

Perhaps you would propose that they have no talent and are not "true" artists! This is why I ask for the definition of art. It's not a "poor refuge" for an honest discussion, it's something that is the fundamental term upon which your argument is hinged. You can't gatekeep "art" without defining what the gate is.

The OP talks about Suno Studio - A DAW experience with recording, editing, generative tools, and generative restyling. This is, objectively, a different level of tool than a "prompt to music" generation experience.

Something that is composited through multiple decisions made by a human, toward some end that only they see, through an iterative process...

Well, I'd say that's where the artistry is.