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SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
I see. Thank you for your feedback.
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
1. Regarding the problem of having to review a lot of cards, this is actually somewhat inevitable. Still, Note Garden made several attempts to alleviate this problem as much as possible. For example, you can choose which range to learn very flexibly on demand exploiting a tree structure. In addition to this, we plan to make the content that the user already know not appear in the learning course as much as possible by connecting each other's difficulty measurement between the notes.

2. Regarding the issue of when the product dies, we are also considering making it open source to minimize the harm to learners when the Note Garden can no longer be maintained. And we have already been developing Note Garden for over 3 years. It won't die right away

SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
that's a hundred percent correct understanding! lol
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
Our program can feel "huge" for now. Especially on ios. We're planning to work on it soon.
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
The reason the app's learning course doesn't look so much different from traditional SR programs is probably because your notes don't have a rich structure yet. As your notes get richer, you'll see their structures reflected in the learning course.
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
I'm sorry if my expressions sounded unpleasant. I had no intention of doing that. It may have sounded that way because I am not sensitive to expressions in English. But I wanted to emphasize that if Mochi made Anki better, our app is a complete upward compatibility with it. Sorry to be rude once again. I also have a strong love for this app, so I think I was being harsh.
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
Yes
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
I'm sorry then... I withdraw my words

Would you please try the app out...?

SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
Ah, I confused what you suggested with another study. I'm sorry. If so, what I can say about the study is that the utility of organizing content well and making it possible to review it using SR algorithm may be greater than the utility of taking notes by hand.
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
Maybe I'm being rude, but if you miss the chance to use Note Garden for that reason, I'll call you an idiot.
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
Sorry, it works now
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
There will probably be a paid plan eventually, but there will still be a free plan, and I guarantee it will at least be better than Anki.
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
The reason handwriting is helpful for learning is that handwriting naturally induces structuring of content. And in Note Garden, the content is naturally structured while taking notes.
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
After reading your comments, Our marketers just decided to add the function to use the app as a guest again. So now you can use the app without signing up. Isn't it good?
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
Sorry for leaving a rude reply. I had no intention of being rude. But you're talking about Anki, not Note Garden, and the shortcomings of Anki you mentioned are what we've been trying to overcome so far.
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
Note Garden solves those problems by exploiting the tree structure and properly connecting it to SR algorithm. In fact, Note Garden doesn't even use a Q/A style.
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
What you say is pointless, because Note Garden was created to solve those problems.
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
Sure
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
Well, Thanks.
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
Sorry, this is a commercial project, not open source. In fact, if this fails, we will starve. Anyway, it is the core of this app that automatically connects the naturally written note-taking into a form that can use Spaced Repetition. It's hard to explain in more detail, but I hope you enjoy the experience of being able to use Spaced Repetition for the content by simply taking notes in outliner form. Anyway, thanks for the compliment.
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
Maybe this explanation is helpful:

There is an old, tried-and-tested learning algorithm called SR (Spaced Repetition)

(The algorithm used to determine when to show cards in flashcard programs)

The problem is that SR is a tool that only fits 1:1 structures,

and this structure does not match the structure of knowledge

What fits this structure is as simple as country–capital pairs or word–meaning pairs,

but not general subjects

Now, LearnObit has a solution for that!

The first step is to make a good note-taking tool

that mimics the tree structure for the purpose of organizing knowledge

The second step is to connect that note-taking tool with SR

Then SR can be easily used for learning information that has tree structures as well as 1:1 pairs

And since the tree structure is the structure of general subjects,

SR can be used for general subjects unlike in the past

Now SR is the normal way, not just for a few enthusiasts on the fringes

SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
Thank you. Corrected the parts you pointed out!!

As for the part where desktop google sign-in does not work, regarding your description, it seems that the part that executes the app protocol using a browser does not seem to work.... I'm sorry. Let me see why not.

SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
As of now, there is the function to import / export from the app itself and the function to export to Anki (actually, these are not working now since the app was completely changed, it needs to be fixed). Anyway we will implement more import/export functions in the future and the ones you mentioned will be included.
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
Yes. However, the mainstream of knowledge management tools will be the Note Garden.
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
There is a part about SM algorithm in the link I posted (https://learnobit.postach.io/post/to-everyone-who-showed-a-p...).

To recap, I'm currently using the traditional SM2. But there are ambitious plans to appoint new and innovative algorithms.

SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
1. Originally, there was the function for trying it out without sign-up, but that function was removed. Our marketers didn't want that feature. I'm sorry.

2. It can't be. But you can use the app offline or by exporting & importing local data.

3. I'm sorry. I have nothing else to say but to reload. It's fine on our side.

SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
"It's better to do this by hand than on a computer" was a common saying before software was sufficiently advanced. That word has always changed. And now is the time. The moment when the utility of doing digitally exceeds the utility of doing it manually.
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
As I understand, Mochi is one of so many "Pretty Anki"s. Maybe it's better than Anki because it's Prettier. But, of course, compared to Note Garden, it's sloppy. It is very outdated in that you have to create cards one by one. The cards that are made even after doing the labor are just messed up cards that are not connected to each other.
SunghoYahng··on Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one
Hey Hackers,

The main concepts of this app are

1. Take notes in a tree structure.

2. Test immediately without wasting time and effort to create flashcards separately.

3. Review with the optimal learning cycle calculated by the SR algorithm.

This is probably the question you are most curious about. “What is the difference with other competitors?”

The long and nerdy answer: https://learnobit.postach.io/post/to-everyone-who-showed-a-p...

SunghoYahng··on Show HN: I'm making an integrated learning tool, like Anki and Workflowy in one
I understand that the rabbit looks like that way to some people. It is a way to grab attention in the internet world where being ignored is the default... But confidence in the functionality and innovation of this app is still.
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