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"people with hostile drones inbound"

People under treat will justify all sorts of things. It's up to everyone else to to balance whether their response is reasonable.

I'm as against the genocide as you can be, but what you are saying is historically completely inaccurate. Discrimination against Jews is old, older than Israel or Zionism. The arguments against the land theft and genocide are strong enough without the hyperbole.

Genocide is not the same as extermination. The goal of expulsion is to obtain land. Surveillance programs facilitate ethnic cleansing by countering resistance.

Reading the article you'll see that much of the surveillance is against the West Bank population, which has nothing to do with Hamas or Oct 7.

Israel has been very effective at blurring that distinction, using that attack from Gaza as the pretext to accelerate land theft in the West Bank.

Arguing that mass surveillance is not unethical but actually a way to save lives is pretty disingenuous, absurdly so considering how little the country wielding it cares about collateral damage.

Cue the victimhood - how unfair it is that the IDF gets singled out for doing what every military does - how Israel is the real victim here.

It's not. They are used for SIP gateways and calling card services all the time. Against TOS but hardly an illegitimate use.

So they find some SIM boxes and assume terrorism? It's the way calling card services offer cheap rates to various countries. They suck from a cell planning POV but they're hardly nefarious.

This feels slight of hand - like redefining what a written language is in order to claim discovery of a new record.

There were older ways of communication, but to be a writing system it needs symbolise a spoken language.

It's been suggested that cuneiform was driven by exactly that.

I take Gaza and censorship very seriously, am comfortable here and am happy to stand behind every comment I've made.

Naver and Kakao lists businesses for free but offers paid services to businesses for enhanced visibility and operations. Their combined annual revenues is around 10 billion USD. And the apps still suck. They could do with some competition.

If other countries give market access to Korean companies, then as a member of the WTO, South Korea's non-reciprocity comes with significant penalties.

This isn't about nimble startups being protected against Google and Apple. It's Naver, Samsung and Kakao Corporations. They sometimes exercise vast power over government and so such decisions are less democratic than oligarchic.

Let's remember that all this protectionism ends up costing consumers. UX design in Korean apps alone sucks so hard, and there's monopolistic pricing for lots of services. Consumers could benefit from alternatives.

Pretty good summary of the arguments here: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/05/travel/south-korea-google...

Of course the pearl clutching by Korean mega-corporations that Google would behave monopolistically is pretty hard to take.

It was flagged 20 minutes into being posted, and was respectful until that time. Really, stop lying.

Ah, this comment was apparently too much too. All, very quickly as well. The threshold for taking down a post should be higher.

Seriously, do the people doing this think they're doing Israel any favours? Everyone knows about the Hasbara farms by now.

Ah, got it. Thanks.

No matter how civilised the discourse, for some it's too much. Is there a way to take away the veto of any 10 people who don't like what they see?

Was there a threshold as to why it wasn't one last month, for example.

Couldn't find the actual light levels associated with relative most/least bright.

That's not clear at all. What is clear is an apparent impulse to shut down an unfavourable discussion and throw unproven accusations. There are lots of articles on non-tech posts on HN, you haven't shown he's unfair.

There is no such thing as an unavoidable war crime.

Reporting is one way they are brought to light. Commenters are allowed to discuss the validity of the claims, whatever their reasoning. You have decided to believe the Israeli military, others have the right to conclude otherwise.

But that the reporters and sources are Israeli means your knee-jerk claims of their anti-semitism or conspiracy are absurd. Nor does that mean the claims must be valid, just that they shouldn't be dismissed out of hand by hair-triggered, wild accusations of anti-semitism. You do know they aren't doing anyone any favours, right?

Good. Because a couple dozen people are not the whole community and should not get to decide what's allowed to be discussed by the rest.

Funny how exiling Gazans to the West Bank is out of the question. It's almost as if they have designs on the entirety of it.

Perhaps it shouldn't be up to Israel to decide the future of non-citizens then.

You don't decide what's on topic or the spirit of HN. If anyone does it's Deng, who you're arguing with. Sorry you feel the need to decide what adults can talk about.

"all"

Irrelevant. Israel is obliged to not prevent civilians from receiving food, water and medicine. If it can't do so without 'aiding' Hamas, that's Israel's problem.

Before levelling claims of bias and racism, consider that the reporting is by a Jewish run, Israeli newspaper and that the sources are IDF officers and soldiers. To jump to a claim of anti-semitism suggestions you really need to examine your own biases.

Atrocities against unarmed civilians are not excused by 'but they started it', who did? The old woman, the 10 year old boy? Justifying collective punishment like this takes a huge degree of racism and heartlessness.

"once started (wars) are sometimes impossible to stop". How convenient then that land (belonging to people who also have nothing to do with 'the first punch') continues to be stolen as long as the war drags out.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but under the previous process, submitting a policy with an update freezes it to a specific version. That holds the developer to account at least for that update.