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OasisG··on Culture still doesn’t explain poverty
Actually, I read the study some time ago, and am very familiar with it's findings. My response was to your specific comment here:

"there was a belief that the school should take care of everything (Parents didn't encourage/supervise, students didn't care, etc)."

I thought that was clear...

OasisG··on Culture still doesn’t explain poverty
I'm familiar with the study and generally give it more weight than other studies by people who dip in and out of the black community solely to collect data.

That said, I don't think it's entirely wrong to think that if you send your child to school for 6-8 hours a day, they should actually come home having learned something.

I didn't have helicopter parents, my parents just watched for grades. No PTA meetings, no reviewing my hw, no private tutors... I grew up and went to schools in the hood, but still got great grades, took a dozen AP/advanced courses, was in IB, got into an ivy league college, etc. etc.

So there was definitely something going on at school with regard to student expectations, curriculum, and teacher quality (I had amazing teachers).

OasisG··on Culture still doesn’t explain poverty
Chinese, Indians, and Koreans have a completely different history in America than African Americans. Your comment is simplistic and easily falls apart under basic levels of scrutiny.

Those groups mostly had the luxury of immigrating to America AFTER black people fought for the civil rights of ALL American citizens. They reaped the benefits of black struggles while experiencing very little of the viciousness of racism.

That's not to say that there is nothing to learn from these groups though.

OasisG··on Culture still doesn’t explain poverty
There is a limit to what empirical study can reveal. I've always been uneasy about these studies from either side of the debate because they are almost always conducted by people who have no other connection to the black community.

That is, white researchers who live, work, and play among their white peers are drawing conclusions about a community they (socially) know nothing about. These researchers often have few/no black friends. Have never been to a predominantly black party. Never sat down in a black hair salon or barbershop and listened to the talk of the day.

How we expect accurate analysis that can lead to meaningful solutions is beyond me.

ETA: Persistent poverty in the black community is the result of many things. Misplaced and legitimate distrust of white people, misguided government programs, low expectations, too high expectations, racist laws, stereotypes about black intelligence, black people's internalization of those stereotypes...

Anyone expecting a conclusive study that comes down on one side or the other, or that narrows the problem/solution to any one issue is living a pipe dream.

OasisG··on 2010 Color Trends
I was curious about the lack of green and wondered if there's a reason behind it. Came across this website (no clue how accurate it is) that breaks down color meanings across cultures.

http://www.sibagraphics.com/colour.php

OasisG··on Facebook marketing does not seem to be as effective as believed
Isn't that part of the point though, that you as a fan don't really need/rely on Facebook?

The true failing of fb seems to be that in it's quest to be all things to all marketers, it becomes nothing to anyone. In terms of marketing, it still makes more sense to reach out through specialized channels where the focus and function are clearly outlined.

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