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You're absolutely right (and also on point for why I prefaced with 'the contrarian jerk in me.') I think I'll email exactly this to HR now.

That's assuming that loving each other like our own family would be loving in a loving way, and not in an absolute deep down rage love-to-hate way. But yes, I agree with your sentiment. We're all just people trying to make it and a little love goes a long way.

I just sat through a company wide "Sensitivity Training" at my company (which I'm very much looking forward to leaving, and leaving a review for,) where "We're a family" was repeated ad nausium. I was a little shocked that this was coming from HR and Staff. It was almost a cultish call and response of bullshit.

The reality is, we're not family. I don't have to be sensitive to my family. If I don't like them, I can say and do as I please. If they don't like me, the same. I don't have to care about their feelings, I don't have to accept their life choices. I don't have to see them every day. I don't have to accomplish tasks with them. I can quarrel with them, and eventually they may choose to forgive me because of kinship, or not. Point being, there are precisely zero commonalities between family and work peers. And there shouldn't be.

The contrarian jerk in me really wanted to yell an epithet during training and say something along the lines of "What, if we're a family, I'm the racist uncle that your dad keeps inviting to dinner despite his offensive tirades and uncomfortable leering at your sister. Deal with it."

I'm in Utah. I have a small wagon that gets 30+ mpg and and f-250. Do I need the 250? No. I don't really need the wagon either, I can take transit to work every day, or bike. Or walk. But I like having the 250 so I can haul loads of dirt by the yard for my garden, stone fill for the driveway I'm diy'ing, the compactor to tamp it down, drywall sheets for my remodel, or my mountain bike along with those of six buddies. And if I had to pick just one car? It'd be a truck.

Oh, self dealing. Shocking. For what happens when this gets rampant enough, please see DOMO. Wouldn't be surprised if Neumann owned a coffeeshop or fast casual restaurant ala Cubby's and mandated that said eatery cater all locations.

That would raise an entirely different set of issues in Salt Lake City.

Oh man, the Nordic nations. I remember studying abroad and being the industrious-borderline-alchoholic I am, taking the empties from any classmate I could, so I could re-up the beer supply for free.

Here in salt lake, however, we actually have to pay extra to have a glass collection bin at home. There are a dozen or so sites in the city that one could dump the glass, if they were so inclined, or into the general trash bin it goes. We certainly don't get paid for our our glass.

It's extra disappointing because local...legal strangeness, has been encouraging a bit of a local brewery boom. I'd love to return the glass to the brewery for cleaning and reuse, but that's not an option here.

All that said, there's a ton of plastic that goes into single stream recycling that isn't barcoded...

I could, and I probably should, but my time is worth something. For $25 I'd be doing it to make a point, but I'm not sure that point would actually be made.

From a linked nat geo article:

“I never thought plastic recycling would work,” says Roland Geyer, an engineering professor at the University of California, Santa Barbara and author of the study “Production, use and fate of all plastics ever made.” “There is a viable business model around metal, but plastics never has had that. It’s too low-value, too contaminated, with too many different polymers mixed together. And you can only make it work with a really low cost of labor.”

Fascinating stuff. Perhaps it's time to step away from plastic containers for foodstuffs. I'm a little surprised we didn't move at least a little further away post BPA awareness.

In Salt Lake City they stopped accepting many types of plastic in the recycling bin this summer, it's been a huge PITA. It's also led me to recycle less. This bugged me so I've changed my shopping habits a bit to compensate. For example, I avoid shopping at Trader Joe's, because everything there comes wrapped in plastic. Everything. It doesn't seem like retailers have quite caught on that it's becoming more difficult to recycle.

Yep. a few years ago I signed up for a promo where if I spent a certain amount in the app store, I'd get a free chromecast. Never got it. No recourse available. At all. It's really strange that this level of "service" is acceptable.

And real estate is very very expensive there too.

The OP references the Misemployment essay which very clearly takes this view.

"He is joined in the misemployment ranks by people who make cigarettes, addictive but sterile television shows, badly designed condos, ill-fitting and shoddy clothes, deceptive advertisements, artery-clogging biscuits and highly-sugared drinks (however delicious)."

I think our bullshit jobs guy is a bullshit writer, personally. Shoddy condos, you might not like, but they provide housing. Shoddy clothes provide warmth. You might not like it, you might not agree with the incentives behind it, but they can be and are important parts of some people's existence.

https://www.theschooloflife.com/thebookoflife/unemployment-d...

Do you mean code or zoning? Code is about safety, zoning is about... well, historically many things, some good, many bad.

This past summer I was looking at relocating for a job at article.com (they seem great by the way,) and I ultimately ended up turning it down because of the insane cost of housing in Vancouver. It would have been a significant pay cut and quality of life change, even with the decent raise that the package came with.

As an outsider, it certainly seems like time for a correction. I wish I could have taken that job, and now that I see this, I wish I had, as I'd be well positioned to scoop up some of that price corrected property.

The other thing that I found fascinating about this, and this is obviously from the view of an American, is that the 30 year mortgage is pretty unique. Historically that seems obvious now. But, I have a hard time imagining buying a house with the kind of risk that comes with an adjustable rate mortgage, that seems inherent in the Canadian mortgage model.

Chicago is in a blue state with a rather notorious history of regulation and local labor.

Also, the cities you list have different seismic realities to contend with.

Don’t confuse privacy with secrecy. I know what you do in the bathroom, but you still close the door. That’s because you want privacy, not secrecy. (From I have nothing to hide. Why should I care about my privacy? : https://medium.com/@FabioAEsteves/i-have-nothing-to-hide-why...)

From a previous HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14394863

google has no business needing to know where I am or am not. (even though they already do, thanks android/google-fi/chrome-cast/nest/etc etc.)

Is Github becoming a popular place for blogging simply because my coworkers will think I'm doing a code review and not reading about Neapolitan Pizza?

If so, thank you for your service. It's working.

I laughed out loud at "mini-brand," as if the norm for a company in the mind of Silicon Valley is so massive that anything under 2mm/yr in revenue is "mini."

"I'm not an independent proprietor, I'm a mini-mogul of a micro-barbershop." vomit.

This was my take away as well. "Shame" in this case is defined as independent retailers with "low quality goods." In this case, it appears that "low quality" is synonymous with anything not Mainstream Luxury.

Beyond that, this is the reality of how modern mall development works. Mall properties are basically ephemeral pump and dump real estate schemes. When the anchors move out to the latest highly subsidized mall with bigger and better TI incentives, little guys move in. Some of them are garbage, but many are not. Sometimes the mall makes it, sometimes it doesn't. Nothing new or special here.

art.

And your comment conveniently omits that ballot item was a non-binding opinion question on using a gas tax increase to fund education and public roads. And that it was defeated. And that a tax != a subsidy.

Same with product manager. Many descriptions list working with product management as a requirement. There have not been 425 product management jobs listed this year. Trust me, I've applied to most of them.

Why do you say it takes away the impact?

The black and white reads to me as a way to pull out the distractions, to focus only on the form.

Victim? She's not a victim. She's upset she saw an advertisement. Aggrieved, offended, dismayed, rightfully very upset about the loss of her pregnancy, but she's not a victim.

>And yes, I'm not considering my language

Then we're done here.

>I suspect the problem isn't just that stillbirths are rare, but that you can't really monetize a stillbirth.

And you can monetize transgenderism, so unless the cost of this letter starts to get very expensive, OP's advertising will get better well before mothers of stillborn children.

Should have said, "Everything they can that's potentially profitable," but overall I'm aiming for pith over nuance.

I'm not throwing up my hands, I'm here saying: consider the things you're letting into your life and their motivations. There are plenty of things we can do about it. Not share every single detail about ourselves on social media being a good start.

This isn't private data we're talking about with the authors post. It's data she made very public, by choice.

She will not succeed in making the system more human centered or friendly. She will succeed in changing the ROI of dealing with advertising to mothers of stillborn children, as another poster stated, by creating negative PR. Those are not equivalent.

You are exactly the person I'm trying to influence by reminding you that these systems care about revenue, not you or your well being.

These facts may be well known, but you are certainly not considering them when choosing your language. You are letting an amoral entity into your very personal life for dubious reasons and expecting it do be "friendly to humans," when they are designed to be friendly to shareholders wallets. It will be exactly as "friendly" as it needs to be, no more. And, if shareholders decide the cost of being friendly is greater than the benefit, then the "friendly" feature will be turned off.

She put out a public letter on the internet. We're here discussing it. If she stumbles across this thread, I'm sure she'd be aware that I'm discussing the letter. Not responding directly to her.

If I posted this point to her twitter feed, I would soften the language. But I would do my best not to change my point.

I would soften the language because I have a moral imperative- unlike twitter and instagram.

Social media companies are incredibly clear about what information they gather and how they will use it: everything and however they want. Is anyone actually unaware of this? The individuals may not consider the consequences, but twitter has no responsibility to tell you that they'll use your pregnancy post to advertise to you, and what the ramifications of that might be. Advertising algorithms are amoral tools put into this world by amoral entities.

The woman's situation is a use case with an ROI attached to it. It's a PBI for Twitter.

Elsewhere in this thread there's a transgender individual. Their use case is another PBI.

The transgender person's use case will be solved first because the transgender community represents more advertising dollars than a grieving mother.