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It will be the reverse I suspect. Eventually we will see that LLM quality is lower when it is training data from 2014-2020 and will chalk it up to human limitations and the data not being written with a laser-focused goal of training better AI.
This isn't true, but it feels like this when the entire engineering world order seems to actually run on single-point-of-failures where one CEO just messages another when some 3rd party is down. And reputational risk here is completely safeguarded because as long as everyone is down you are fine. Use a service everyone uses and it goes down = no reputational risk. Use a more robust architecture and make some mistake = massive reputational risk and everyone asks why you don't use what everyone else uses.
Blind leading the blind and all that.
E.g. - "Rape is illegal and prosecuted, so how can we have a 'rape culture'?" - "That's not rape culture, that's just individual bad actors" - "People criticizing women's clothing choices is normal social interaction" - "Rape culture is a partisan feminist concept like [insert dismissive comparison]"
The parallel is that both involve:
1. Demanding an impossibly narrow definition (complete silence vs. systematic legal tolerance) 2. Dismissing patterns as "just normal social behavior" 3. Focusing on whether the most extreme version exists rather than whether there's a meaningful phenomenon worth discussing 4. Using the term's political associations to avoid engaging with the substance
The irony is particularly sharp when you argue that "telling someone to shut up" is quintessentially social while simultaneously arguing that coordinated efforts to damage someone's reputation/livelihood for speech don't constitute a distinct social phenomenon worth naming.
Can you name one time Trump immediately regretted what he said about the Left and explained that it was an overgeneralization? Also again, in Clinton's case it was a single unscripted statement. By contrast Trump has a pattern of calling opponents vermin, the anti-christ, evil, warning of a bloodbath to come... Yea the left's attacks on the right just don't seem nearly as bad especially if it is just being called "deplorable" once. I could write a book that is just hateful Trump quotes. Ganna print it and give it to my son one day as inspiration for how to be an honourable leader. /s
I say all this as a Canadian that would have voted for Trump in 2016 if I could have.
If not that frequently or unpredictably then you could just plan to use your laptop for banking some time during the day.
Far-left versus Far-right Fatal Violence: An Empirical Assessment of the Prevalence of Ideologically Motivated Homicides in the United States
One side is all shout and no bite. The other is no shout and then eat your fucking face.
I'll take the idiots shouting but not actually killing if I had to pick. But I won't lie the choice still makes me feel dirty.
Both conclusions can be right at the same time.
I can think of 2 US companies I know of off the top of my head that deliberately hire Europeans since they get talent at a steep discount (especially if you pay them remotely). From what I've seen Ukraine and Estonia are considered goldmines of cheap talent. I doubt they are the only ones.
Bald speculation and opinion would be that this massive imbalance between earnings is causally tied to merit to a degree strong enough that we can confidently say European software engineers are as a whole a whopping 50% less competent than US counterparts. This to me is ridiculous, not because it sounds offensive or anything, it's just obviously untrue for Europe. This is just how we've set up our geopolitics with downstream affects being massive imbalance between earnings of countries.
I don't think it was dumb of scientists during the nuclear arms race in the 50s to think there was a significant enough chance humans were going to go extinct soon (years, not decades) because of the developments they were seeing and as a result getting very anxious and doing things like stopping their retirement savings plans.
The fears from that era were 100% well-founded within the group or scientists who were most on the know about developments. Same goes for AI development.
Talking to people I have met who used to work at OpenAI as AI researchers and left because of AI safety concerns paints a very clear "these are reasonable-headed people with well-informed beliefs" when they say things like there is a small but significant chance we lose control by 2027. Because humans are ganna human and place shareholder value and beating China over safety.
Oil companies: "Climate change will soon end the human race and we are pushing scary narrative here so that people will buy more oil"
Biotech: "Our lethal compounds can be synthesized to a degree to end the human race. Clearly me scaring you like this will boost sales"
Arms dealers: "We are selling bombs that will guaruntee end the human race with 90% certainty. Wanna buy?"
It makes no sense. Hundreds of top AI searchers with zero financial stake in the private sector have raised the alarm about AI posing a risk on the same order of magnitude as nukes, climate change and bioterrorism.
Saying this is all just commercializing the human fear response is the same sort of lazy dismissive reasoning I can imagine was used when the first warning signs from epidemiologists came out regarding covid-19. "You're just trying to get funding for your anti-covid-19 research or some other political reason & and you're just using covid-19 fear to get what you want, how dare you!"
How much risk their is I can agree is up for debate, but that the motivations of people bringing up thee is a risk is just to commercialize things is so blatantly false it is a comical view to hold at this point. One of the fucking founders of AI Geoffrey Hinton spent the entire time during his Nobel prize award speech warning AI has a significant chance of killing us all if trends continue.
Like what, you think his old ass really cares about boosting book sales or trending on Twitter for saying something contrarian or something? No, he sincerely believes what he is saying.
If none of this convinces you something is up, what will? What do you need to see for it to be reasonable to go from completely dismiss to consider it as possibly serious?
There is an entire philosophical theory called deep cluelessness which is far more nuanced than just "unsure" which was built on by an Oxford EA philosopher.
I personally know multiple people in the movement who say they are deeply clueless on matters where they can altogether affect where hundreds of thousands of dollars under their care is directed.
And guess what, it does give them pause and they don't just follow some weird entirely untested or nonsense set of axioms. They consider second order effects, backfire risk and even hedging interventions in case their worldview is incorrect. All this careful reasoning I just never ever see in any any other social movement that has money it can direct where there is clear uncertainty with how best to allocate it.
There is no contradiction in being very evil and very rational. It is easy to think of brilliant scientists who were evil beyond evil throughout history as an analogous example.
By that time the amount of money that will have been made can justify and exceed whatever fine they might expect to get in court.