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9864250··on UK ditches ban on 'legal but harmful' online content
> The solution is easy: stop lying about being a "platform" if you want editorial control.

The "platform" argument is based on a misreading of an American law. Whether or not someone call themselves a platform is completely irrelevant. I don't lose my right to not disseminate your speech just because I may choose to disseminate somebody else's speech.

> Wut? How does free speech infringe on free speech, exactly?

If I want to host a community for a particular purpose, but the government forces me to host the community for another purpose, my right to free speech along with everyone who wanted to participate in my community has been violated.

For example, maybe I wish to host a community for supporters of a particular politician, but the government says I also have to include the much more numerous opponents of that politician, maybe I wish to host a community for a marginalized group of people, but the government says I also have to include those who hate those people, or maybe I just wish to host a community that as many people as possible want to use so that they will look at my ads, but government says I also have to include people who make the community worse for everyone else. Regardless, the government has used force to control speech, and has in effect banned certain kinds of communities. That's not free speech.

9864250··on UK ditches ban on 'legal but harmful' online content
A corporation is made up of people. You cannot take away their free speech without infringing in the free speech of individuals. I have never even visited the US, and I still support free speech. It's not a uniquely American concept.
9864250··on UK ditches ban on 'legal but harmful' online content
They will hopefully ditch the entire bill eventually, but I don't have much hope. The 'legal but harmful' part was just one of many horrible parts of the bill. It's depressing that the main opposition party is criticizing the government, not for proposing censorship, but for proposing too little censorship. I hope we be able to move to decentralized censorship-resistant alternatives before the government destroys what remains of free speech on the internet.
9864250··on UK ditches ban on 'legal but harmful' online content
That would not protect free speech, it would infringe on it. Forcing someone to host someone else's speech is both an infringement on their right to free speech and on the free speech rights of users who want a well-moderated community, which you cannot have if the government is overriding moderator discretion. It's also quite dangerous, as the government will likely use that power to promote speech it likes and drown out speech it doesn't like.

I wonder if I will have to use a VPN to access Hacker News from the UK in the future, as this site will surely not let the UK government prevent it from moderating itself.

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