Ruby vs PHP performance

I find it funny that the 31 lines of code in the example can be easily reduced to 8:

  def merge(a, b)
    c = []
    c << (a[0] > b[0] ? b.shift : a.shift) until a.empty? || b.empty?
    return c+a+b
  end

  def mergesort(a)
    a.size <= 1 ? a : merge(mergesort(a.slice!(0,a.size/2)),mergesort(a))
  end

Language Power > Language Speed

I would assume that one reason PHP seems faster in practice is that much of the typical grunt work of a webapp (what he calls the "web environment") is done in C for PHP and Ruby for Ruby.

C++ version is a disaster. It is literally two orders of magnitude slower than it should be.

The dude compared the performance of a couple of array-related functions in various run time libraries for 4 languages, with all those functions (probably) written in C. Although I still consider this exercise useful.

The merge sort test is probably spending most of its time allocating/deallocating arrays. I would say it's similar to the b-tree shootout.

http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4/benchmark.php?test=bin...

Comparing languages for speed is a really odd thing to do. It's much like trying to compare the intelligence of people. Give a very narrow context, it may be sort-of-do-able, but it's not a very useful picture. The problems with PHP, is _not_ its speed.

I once wrote a compiler and a VM for a custom language and without much optimization it performed almost twice as fast as PHP. Not that I'm good at VM's but probably PHP is really bad.

Ruby seems to be more than fast enough, but Rails and ActiveRecord is slow.

I find the debate about languages follows in a long line of others, first going back to analog vs digital, vinyl vs CDs, film Vs DV, MS PC's vs Apple, blar blar.

It would appear to me that most of this is driven by prejudice and stems back to people like what they know, where they feel comfortable, and upstarts that think they know better (the new kids on the block) have less bias, less invested and are evangelists of the new because it's cool and they have a chance of caving out a bit of respect if they can attain expert status in that new field where they would have had no chance with the old fashioned.

I like php, simply because i find it easy to grasp, almost intuitive, but most importantly is the community, who have within the documentation left their own solutions and many tips are gained from this for me, along with a few other resources I can normally find most things in PHP, thousands of classes already written and open source, code examples etc.

I also do a fair bit with AS2 and this is a great platform but the community is no where near as advanced, and the language can act very strange sometimes, plus is also very tight and unforgiving.

I see no speed issues with PHP, no security problems (as often claimed) if you code sensibly and I like it. so there.

This is needle debate. There could be 2 girls. Both with perfect bodies, wombs and breasts but only with one of them is you sexual experience much better. You don't know why is it so, you can't explain it ... because it's just the chemistry. One love slow comfortable movements, other is like a rabbit :) Did you ever seen the rabbit in action? Love PHP and give Ruby a chance.