If I got an offer with AH though, I would take it. Hell, as an entrepreneur, I'd probably be skeptical of taking any money that wasn't from AH. They're the only ones that seem to do anything prescient.
What I find different about AH is that they invest when they want to invest, and don't care if other VCs are interested. Social proof isn't that important to them. And it's pretty crazy...they'll invest in a company that nobody else has been talking about and then out of nowhere the entire VC industry is throwing money at them.
AH == a16zPlease put your contact info in your HN profile.
I'm not quite ready yet :) (still in the process of buying the house). I shall add details shortly though!
What's the fun in sitting on your ass rating/gambling on others' fortunes? Make your own!
BTW Aswath Damodaran once made a very astute point regarding VCs: they're traders, not investors, looking to enter low and exit high. Period. Anyone under the delusion that these people invest for the greater good is (largely) mistaken.
That's not necessarily a bad thing, but just not how I'd personally like to see my occupation defined.
Notwithstanding the fact that investors look to buy low and sell high too, the point here is incorrect.
Venture capitalists, like many in financial services, are not really traders or investors. Sure, they might trade and/or invest, but their primary function is to raise capital that they can siphon fees from.
A 2% annual fee on committed capital on a $500 million fund that has an expected life of at least 10 years will produce $100 million or more in fees for a venture capital firm over its lifetime. Add a new, larger fund every few years (assuming you don't blow an earlier fund up) and you can see that the 20% carry, while potentially very significant, is really just icing on the cake.
Anybody who really wants to succeed as a venture capitalist should understand this. Incidentally, when you recognize that the limited partner side of the equation is more important than the startup side of the equation, it's not surprising that venture capital has a herd mentality and there are few true cowboys making bold bets. There is little to no incentive to stray too far from the pack.
You can see the full context here, worded better originally than I could hope to paraphrase:
http://bubbleinvestment.com/qa-with-aswath-damodaran-nyu-pro...
Right. But the 'what they do with the money left over after fees' happens to be the subject of this discussion. You're arguing a moot point.
Venture capital funds aren't the worst products in financial services, but if they're as wonderful as you seem to be suggesting, why is it that there are lots of firms that haven't received a carry check in years and most VCs don't invest any money of real note in their own funds[1]? Is it possible you're overestimating?
[1] https://hbr.org/2014/08/venture-capitalists-get-paid-well-to...
I know at least one exception to that rule, so even if you might right in the aggregate remember that VCs just like founders are people too and generalization across populations is bound to treat individuals poorly.
I'd bet most of the people who hang out in places like YC want the same. What is the probability of success though?
For it to actually be unfair, there has to be a legitimately injured party. As an example, Flappy Bird's creator didn't injure anybody, and did not take anything from anyone else (I'm not sure if you can get more random, for this discussion, than that product's brief but sensational rise).
There's no possibility of objectively defining the random aspect - what qualifies as random and what doesn't (varying from lottery winners to someone claiming Paul Allen fits the category). That logic hint makes it clear that the idea that getting rich randomly is unfair, is an invalid notion to begin with. It falls into the same camp as thinking that all wealth in general is unfair - a strictly subjective feeling, typically derived from a person's philosophy on life.
I just don't desire to be a part of it.
gotta be careful with the generalizations.
I used to think of myself as starting a successful company or two, and retiring to VC or as an Angel… I've come to realize that that scenario is entirely unrealistic. Few founders have the experience needed to do this right off the bat. It'd probably be hugely beneficial to anyone to work in the industry for a bit before jumping in. Work for a VC, or work for a VC-related company (e.g. AngelList, FundersClub, Equidate, eShares…)
If this sounds interesting, we're hiring - https://angel.co/angellist/jobs.
The full-time role I'd love would be opening up a new geography for a fund; say, a Berlin office for a top tier fund, focused on privacy/infosec/liberty investments in Europe.
AngelList kind of kills all but the top tier. If I had more money, I'd be investing or syndicating on AngelList.
I'd still rather do a startup again in a couple years, but EIR might be a nice transition, and seeing the other side would be interesting.
your skills might make a bigger impact there
The main challenge is time, not opportunity. I'm at a top tier "unicorn" startup right now, and my next best alternative is founding another startup. I probably would walk for a partnership track position in a top firm, but that's it. (Or "fix all of apple's online services", build apple's enterprise business, "make android or chromeos secure and secure against third party doctrine", secure the usg, or spacex, but nothing else.)
There are some great niches in tech investing outside of early stage startups (a PE focused on turnarounds of ducked companies like yahoo or twitter?), but in early stage, if you aren't getting the top deals (by being known as top tier generally or in your market), why bother?
I'd rather be doing something than allocating somethings.
Now I just need to get wealthy myself...
Edit - I bet this would be a great poll.