Having competent customer support, that would be able to address situations like this. Esp. with the amount of people that are using these home automation services with "cloud" support, its only going to get worse the more integrated these services become.
My friend has had a similar situation with the good ol Yahoo eMail service, and after being on call waiting for 4hours, they told him they cannot help him, then hung up.
I also had a similar service, with my STEAM account, I emailed Valve, and within 45 min the account was restored.
I'm not trying to imply that it would be the same, genuinely curious if I can expect better by switching.
so, its possible to disable the sms authentication by removing it in the security settings
fingers crossed for your friend, i hope it works out!
> but this is happening right now to a friend of mine's gmail account
I can't stress this enough but please enable OTP on your accounts. Facebook, gmail, and even your Windows system if you are paranoid enough. Yeah it adds some hassle - but the value of increased security far outweighs the hassle. Also backup the OTP codes somewhere.
> Scammer was able to social engineer the cell phone company to forward his number
If they are in the US please tell us the name of the provider so we know not to ever use them. This isn't the first this kind of attack has happened [1] (shame on you DigitalOcean). I use Gandi and they state in their documentation that they will not reset it if you ask them [2].
> Its so disturbing that there is absolute nothing you can do to reach Google once this happens.
It's a free service - what do you expect? I've heard this story many many times. Yes - google makes billions in profits and could in theory hire someone to handle gmail issues. But, they don't and it makes sense from a business point of view (why spend money on a guy who will support a service that doesn't make money?).
> It could happen on anyone's cell phone as well, how many fortune 500 companies have higher up employees with cell phones and gmail accounts?
If a Fortune 500 company uses gmail they would buy the google apps for work. If they buy google apps for work they get an 800 number to call if they have problems (and most likely a dedicated account rep because they are probably buying 1000s of accounts).
> Imagine in the future trusting google with a self driving car and home automation
Again - you would be giving money to google. And in return you will get support. I'm not saying Google is perfect but if self driving cars become a thing I'm sure (hope) there will be an 800 number you can call when your car becomes sentient.
[1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9596258
[2] - https://wiki.gandi.net/en/hosting/gandi-expert/change-root-p...
Meanwhile the scammer is making threats to his family and pretending to be him send out emergency BTC loan requests and resetting bank passwords. He could be SWAT'd at any moment.
Apparently Google executives are in the mindset that it isn't cost effective for them to provide even the most minimalist crisis support -- a trivial 5 minute look at the account and seeing the ransom artist texting him (through his own gmail) would at least justify an account hold. Google couldn't be bothered-- even at a record 66 billion dollar profit to help him. Why? Because they can't make a profit helping him. Or maybe its that and they are still in the 2003 "beta" mindset. It truly is a real life THX 1138 nightmare for him.
Why can the police/FBI help in this case, given all the threads and demands? Were they contacted and informed of the situation?
I would be calling sales and support until I got someone who could do something. I would call any number related to Google - including for services not even related to gmail.
> Meanwhile the scammer is making threats to his family and pretending to be him send out emergency BTC loan requests and resetting bank passwords.
But if his account is disabled how is the scammer sending out emails?
> He could be SWAT'd at any moment.
That is very unlikely and if it did it would have to churn through the legal system first.
> a trivial 5 minute look at the account and seeing the ransom artist texting him
That is a sticky situation - many would argue that Google shouldn't read another user's email. And that's probably why support is an issue.
No reasonable person expects support for free, but relying heavily on a free service would be a lot less scary if there was an option to get customer support for $100, refundable if they can't solve your problem. At the moment there doesn't seem to be a middle ground between 'behave like a company and open a commercial account before you know there's going to be a problem' and 'if a problem does arise there's nothing you can do for any price'.
I find it interesting that he could log in without 2-factor auth. Those things I thought were keyed to phone hardware.
If you are going to verify over SMS, don't have your SMS messages forwarded to email as that would render your 2fa pointless.
It seems like the specific attack vector in this case was linking the gmail account with a cell phone number. Surely the most secure option is simply a very strong password with no TFA, OTP or any other auxilliary recovery options?
The whole story seems kind of farfetched really. If the attacker did get forwarding to work - it would only forward calls not text messages (which gmail would send a recovery code via text message). According to the story it was in the process of being ported which MAY send texts to the new number - but on most accounts that I've read with dealing with porting that takes at least 24 hours for them to start receiving text messages on the new provider. To my knowledge no carrier has implemented text message forwarding. Also it seemed my posts were downvoted right around the time of his responses.
There are certain holes in this story - first it was a gmail account, then it turned into a gmail + google apps account which are 2 completely different things.
Regardless - enable OTP period.
> Surely the most secure option is simply a very strong password
Arguably using a different strong (12+ characters) password for every site and service is a good approach - but then you should probably be generating those passwords and storing them into a password manager. Then that password manager becomes a target[1]. Using OTP is just a good layer of security.
[1] http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/06/hack-of-cloud-based-...