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Isn't this pretty much the best strategy anywhere in the world? Is there any country that taxes by revenue?

Apple has this weird problem of being so profitable that they have no clue what to do with all that money. And then everyone picks on them for their loophole-based tax mitigation strategies.

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There are countries with much lower corporate tax rates. E.g. Ireland is 15%, Panama is 0% (on foreign income).

I'd say the optimal strategy is what Facebook and Google do with the double Irish Dutch sandwich http://conversableeconomist.blogspot.com/2014/07/double-iris...

Many companies have that problem. They return the capital to investors to invest somewhere else. That is how equity is supposed to work: you give someone money for something and then eventually give you back more than you gave them originally.

Maybe taxes on profits were created so that companies invest their profit instead of hoarding it or giving it to shareholders, creating jobs and infrastructure in the process. As far as I'm concerned, Amazon is using its profits (or lack thereof) exactly as intended.

If you returned it to shareholders they would be reinvesting it too (just somewhere else). You can return capital to investors tax efficiently using share buybacks. Haven't looked at Amazon's annual report in detail so can't tell if they are reinvesting profit in areas that will have high return or not.

> You can return capital to investors tax efficiently using share buybacks.

What if the share price is not undervalued, the investors would get hurt if you do a buyback.

How?

I don't think someone has designed taxes around incentives. In most countries wages are more heavily taxed than products, which balances the spending towards buying more things rather than employing more people. It seems very stretched, but some ecologists suggest to tax petrol more heavily and tax wages less, so it would be easier to employ more people for a task than throw more petrol at it (I use petrol in terms of fast tranports).

What about tariffs? They're designed to incentivize buying products made at home. What about "sin" taxes? They're designed to incentivize good behavior?

(Some) taxes are definitely designed around incentives.

In addition, sins are often easy to tax because consumption is rather inelastic, due to there being few alternatives.

Thus, taxes on sins can produce higher revenues than taxes on more price sensitive goods or activities would.

The US has a system engineered around the political process. High corporate tax rates, with lots of carve-outs.

There are all sorts of strategies for optimization. Many involve lobbying Congress for special carve-outs.

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