The information that companies share with employees is becoming a bigger issue
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If you're going to offer an employee something that sounds like ownership in the company, you should probably be willing/required to lay it all on the table. Failure to do so is a sure sign that what you're offering is not what you want them to think it is.
Yep, if you are the engineer: time to nope the fuck out of there as quickly as possible. The founder has no real consideration for you other than as a resource in his fiefdom.
You hire someone because there's work to be done. You would develop professional, working and possibly personal relationships as you work together for some time. That has nothing to do with the common hiring practices. For the records, I always asked for the cap table when negotiating an offer and I understand that founders are reluctant to share.
Regarding your grant:
1. How many outstanding shares (including as yet un-granted option pool shares) - divide your grant by this number and you have your ownership share of the company
2. If you're granted RSUs, ask about whether you need to file an 83b
3. If you're granted options, ask for the price of these options (or the last common share 409A valuation). This is your cost value of each share
4. Post-money valuation of the previous round (can't be calculated by 409A since that's different, but rule of thumb is that 409A valuation X outstanding shares x 5 ~= last round valuation).
5. Post-money valuation/total outstanding shares is technically the paper-worth of your options or shares (and you can subtract the 409A valuation to get the current expected profit per share). Assuming nothing else, your shares vested per year X (valuation-409A valuation) = your paper equity salary per year
Regarding the company prospects:
1. Money in the bank
2. Monthly burn rate, at which point you can derive the amount of time left for the company to keep going without raising more funding
3. Revenue growth rate, and expense growth rate - this allows you to adjust 2
4. Status of next funding round - when, and which investors. Ask if the same investors will participate again in the next round of funding. Very very rough rule of thumb - if yes, company is doing ok. if no, something's up (with the exception of large growth rounds where smaller investors can't participate anyway)
5. Ask about liquidation preferences (so if there's a sale or exit, do investors get their equity share or at least 1x their money back (the higher of the two), or do they get a multiple of their money back (if that's greater than their equity share)
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At the time it seemed like the only fair approach. We founders honestly didn't know that most startups tell potential hires as little as possible about company finances.
Knowing what I know now, I'd still tell folks this info as it unwittingly gave us a hiring advantage over companies that don't.
Does the company not have an accountant?
Proper term for this is FDSO (fully diluted shares outstanding).
Right now there is MASSIVE information asymmetry and companies are absolutely leveraging that during their hiring processes. In many cases, they have to in order to stand a chance at being competitive when hiring (which is a statement in and of itself).
Given the complexity of these sorts of things for the average employee who has never looked at a term sheet before, has no clue about the tax implications of options, etc. what can be done to even the odds?
My personal rule of thumb right now is that the odds of getting equity that's worth a damn if I'm not a co-founder would typically not be worth it, so I make decisions based on the rest of the compensation package. It is simply the safest way to play it when I know I'm not the smartest one at the table in an equity-based discussion because of said information asymmetry.
They could give them actual money. That seems to solve the problem neatly.
But please don't mistake that for me saying companies should just pay cash. While that would be great, I think there is definitely value in offering equity, particularly for early stage companies that may not have the revenue to actually offer a fully competitive salary.
The thing that needs to change is how prospective employees are educated about this so they can make fair and informed decisions as to their risk tolerance.
This is, for most employees, the correct approach. The reality is that most of the information you might ask for and be provided is usually going to be of limited value and for a limited period of time unless you happen to join the company right before its final financing or an exit. Put more simply, equity structure is typically not static.
If you join a company in part because you like the equity structure at Series A, you have no guarantee that the equity structure will be as appealing to you after the Series B or C.
I don't think anybody expects to really build a career long-term at a company anymore unless they're a cofounder--5 years, maybe, right? So, companies are starting to say, "hey, wait...let's lure them in with equity".
Problem is, we as employees are wising up (due to this sort of constant gossip we all have) that equity is basically not worth counting on at all, and is just a way of tricking engineers who've avoided business learnings into working for less than they produce.
I'm curious how long until we see an approach where the employees get a direct stake in the company's revenue, growth, and expenditures, instead of this silly equity proxy arrangement.
The problem that I see from a morale standpoint, especially for early engineers and hires, is that the founders have massive massive massive equity compared to you, but don't do nearly as much to actually build out the company. They don't organize the teams, they don't write all the fiddly bits of the code, they don't smile and dial all the customers.
And maybe that's just my own bitterness and experience, but it really seems like a lie to treat equity as some actual stake in the company, because you'll never get into the founder club.
The liquidation preferences and other downside protections available for each class of stock must be set forth in the company's charter. These are public documents and copies can be obtained from the secretary of state's office in the state where the company is incorporated (typically Delaware).
Stockholders (but not necessarily option holders that haven't exercised options) may also access the company's books and records for the purpose of valuing their shares.
For example, Section 220 of the Delaware General Corporation Law gives stockholders an explicit right to access certain records and allows a stockholder to obtain a court order granting access to the records if the corporation refuses to provide them.
http://delcode.delaware.gov/title8/c001/sc07/#220
Ideally, a company would make this information available long before it is compelled to do!
Compliance would cost an unfortunate but necessary draw on a founder's attention. It would be nice to see companies like Clerky ( https://www.clerky.com/ ) pick this up... I remember seeing at least one other company doing similar legal services (e.g. 83(b) elections) if anybody can link them.
A significant risk is that the service might not handle the compliance exactly as the founder would like (for worse or for /better/). Perhaps a blogpost comparing services would help the community.
Those things are important if stock is part of your compensation.
If someone is stupid enough to take something that you won't tell them how much it is worth, you are going to end up with stupid/naive engineers and you will fail.
If this stuff is being given as if it's worth something, you need to know what that value is!
And it's no good asking the people offering it you. Of course they'll tell you it's worth a lot! Whether they believe it or not - something about which I am genuinely agnostic - for every cynical, reptile-eyed psychopath, there's somebody who's downed a yard of koolaid - it's in their interest to emphasise the potential value of non-hard-currency compensation, because it's cheaper to pay you that way than it is to find the (supposed) equivalent in actual money.
1) All of the information one should ask for re. equity. 2) What to do with that information.
I don't necessarily need to know all of the in and outs right away, but it would be nice to know a some of the key things that I really ought to know in order to get some kind of handle on it.
https://equityzen.com/blog/understanding-equity-compensation...
Should it be after an offer is extended, immediately after the technical part of the interview, etc..?
I would feel awkward asking some of these specifics about financing early in the process.
When discussing compensation, I assume. If someone offered you $X dollars per year and Y HappyTimeFunBucks, I'd definitely want to know more about the HappyTimeFunBucks before deciding.
The most important thing (apart from thinking the company's mission is good and achievable and the culture a good fit etc) is that you can trust the majority shareholder(s). Or, as others have indicated, just focus on cash compensation. Then again, if you can't prove to yourself that the founder/majority-shareholder is trustworthy, you should run away anyhow, since the cap table will be the least of your worries if there's a lack of ethics.
By the way, my experience working for a startup (I've also worked for large companies, and for the government) is that they are difficult but if you like independence, challenges, and the potential for large rewards (with risk!), they're great.
You lose the tax benefit of cap gains vs income tax, and you miss out on some upside if you're an early employee at the next Dropbox (but you're probably not one of those); on the other hand the downsides are at least quantifiable, as compared to receiving an unknown percentage of the company at an unknown valuation with unknown liquidity preferences and having unknown tax issues (83b, AMT, etc).
This is literally something I just thought of now so I expect it to be full of holes. What do people think?
It might be a nice little lifestyle business to offer a service/software where the founders enter in all their financial data and possible outcomes and it spits out a nice simple curve of the current valuation. It might be of value to the founders too :)
> The candidate presumably “worked somewhere where he discovered that these things matter,” says the founder, who asked not to be named in this story.
i.e., someone else screwed this guy before you got to him.
> “There are just so many complications involved” in sharing the nitty gritty of [how the employee is going to be paid last, if at all] in the event of a sale or a public offering. “We’re still thinking through all these things.”
Yeah, I bet you are.
It does you no good to make $xxx,000/year and have y options if the company is at risk of not being able to make payroll in six months.