The future of databases is RAM clouds and SSD
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I am yet to see any evidence that RethinkDB's approach is anything but a niche for those who need to squeeze an extra 5-10% that advances in filesystems and flash firmware cannot.
Having said that, it's also possible that the actual 'software overhead' is pretty much negligible when compared to disk access times.
Would love to learn more on this.
The interesting part comes from being able to execute existing operations in fundamentally different ways. When you're not restricted to sequential reads you can implement a huge chunk of database internals differently - different concurrency models, different implementations of certain joins, etc. This is where the bulk of the performance improvement comes from.
Once you do this, you realize that a traditional bottleneck (I/O) is completely blown away. Suddenly, all kinds of things nobody ever bothered to optimize become performance bottlenecks (for example, the query plan is traditionally interpreted, not compiled to native code - not good enough once you get an I/O subsystem that's 250 times faster than what you used to have).
Once you get rid of the software bottlenecks, you realize that you're limited by the bus. Since SSDs are highly parallelized devices, you have to change the way you interleave operations for optimal performance. That alone is another order of magnitude.
In three years or so, the flash manufacturers will put chips on the SSDs that will allow you to send down programs to them (not unlike the shaders in video cards). That will likely be a bigger revolution than SSDs themselves. Where we are now is just the beginning.
You're right that we haven't shown any evidence that our approach is anything but a niche. We will. This stuff just takes a long time to build.
Actually, System R (IBM's pioneering relation database from the mid 1970s) compiled query plans down to machine code.
This sounds crazy. SSDs have all this firmware and processing power to make them behave like hard drives. If we want to drive the underlying storage directly we might as well rip all that out and let the OS drive the flash directly from the main CPU. Why would we want to be sending programs into the black box? What can the firmware do that the main CPU couldn't if we stopped attaching flash as SATA and instead just created a direct connection that can DMA back and forth to main memory?
Some Linux developers have made that point, that they would rather be implementing their own filesystems directly on the flash than dealing with a firmware that is trying to make it appear that the SSD is a hard drive but that then needs TRIM to work around the fact that that is not true. These firmwares are nice for Intel by letting them turn a commodity (flash) into a differentiated (and higher margin) product based on the code in the firmware. Considering Linux already has filesystems that can operate directly over flash and that better ones can be written I'd say we would be better off just getting direct access to the flash.
Flash is 10x slower than RAM (in an ideal case), and even then, we haven't had the need to introduce 'shader like' features into RAM - yes, because historically we haven't stored all that much in it, but even with modern 64Gb configurations, same thing...
Upgrading our current hardware with only $10k worth of SSDs will add at least a year or two to the life of our SQL Servers.
There is no way to have a benchmark alone show me what it means to denormalize my data model. Denormalization can help scalability and sometimes performance, but it has huge implications for maintainability, data quality, code complexity and even organisational matters.
I do understand the advantages of being able to run any algorithm on data and not be limited by SQL. But abolishing normalized data models altogether and replacing them with application code and custom data structures everywhere makes me very skeptical as someone who had to deal with data quality issues for many years.
So that's why I'm glad to see some performance issues of RDBMS improved by new storage architectures and also the innovation going on in terms of recursive queries to deal with hierarchical and graph data structures.
I can't say for sure, but suspect some of the headlong rush into denormalized NoSQL stores is motivated by the ease of the data model. I wonder if once you go down that road, if your "program contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of" what you get in a decent RDBMS. (Forgive my hijacking of Greenspun)
That said, I'm usually working in denormalized models anyway (star schemas in data warehouses for handy-dandy slice/dice/drill), so I'm completely open to different ways of approaching data processing and analysis problems.
I actually feel more free with SQL than limited though. What I would really enjoy would be to have the fully expressive power of SQL embedded in a natural feeling way in a higher level language. I'm interested in Q (of KDB) for this reason, have also been baking my brain in prolog to tear down old data model habits, and hacking some in Ruby and Common Lisp for the same reasons.
Of course, I'm probably breaking my career in the process, since I've made a habit of getting paid to work on RDBMS walking the line between hardware/software performance tuning. But because of that, I'm also glad to see new approaches to RDBMS storage and innovation in the whole DB space.
One area where SQL is clearly limiting is text processing and I'm doing a lot of that. There's just no way you could do text analytics in a regular SQL database. I'm sure there are other areas like that, so I agree with you that innovation in the database space is welcome, even if it has acquired that slightly unfortunate name "NoSQL".
I was going to get an SSD for performance enhancement but I don't much see a reason to do that anymore. All the reads happen at the speed of RAM and writes are delayed and non-blocking. Nested queries that used to take 15 minutes now take 45 seconds.
Right now the speed issues we have are solely due to unoptimized algorithms and not due to hardware limitations. This is a wonderful spot for a coder to be in because there is so much room for improvement now. If you have Windows systems serving files and data on slow systems, I would highly recommend giving SuperVolume and its related apps a shot before investing in expensive SSDs.
When you take money into account, are SSDs really worth it, or should I just buy more RAM?
When (the active working set) of your DB is much larger than the RAM your server can support, either get a bigger server or put heavy random IO loads on SSDs.
You're asking it as an A-xor-B when it's really a case of A-then-B.
Ultimately though, cost effectiveness really depends on your workload. MySpace is apparently finding it cost effective to use SSDs for their cache tier. A few months back James Hamilton linked to a study that suggested that for some common workloads, the case for SSDs had to include both price/performance and performance/watt, since it didn't pencil out for each individually. That'll change though, as prices drop and performance improves.
It doesn't change the fact that RDBMSs don't do a good job of returning representations of graphs.