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Linode adds datacenter in Europe

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I really don't understand why anyone would want a VPS with 1.4GB RAM for the same price as a 12GB RAM Quad-Core dedicated server. (for example from hetzner: http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver-pr... - we've been using servers from this provider for 3 years and we're pretty satisfied so far).

It isn't the same price though. There is a setup fee of 150 euros and a monthly rate of 70 euros. This is in comparison to a rate of 80 usd a month with no setup fee. There is a fairly large difference in cost there.

Oh come on. Linode 2880 is ~100 EUR/month and you get far less computing power for your money.

You can also ask for a KVM over IP console to be attached to your server (for free for 2 hours) though this would only be needed when you have an emergecy (i.e. machine not reachable over SSH). There is no bandwith limit (you're capped to 10 Mbit if you exceed 2TB/month).

Seems like a pretty good deal to me.

and how many people use the 2880 plan?

I would guess > 90% of linodes users are on the $20pm plan, and look towards other areas when they start growing anywhere near 2880

From that description, KVM over IP doesn't sound free to me -- it looks like 149€ to set up and 19€ a month. Furthermore, even if what you say is true, what is the benefit of going with a provider who nickel and dimes you over something as simple as out-of-band console?

$dayjob has 24x7 free out-of-band console access, and you'd be hard-pressed to find a VPS provider that doesn't. The only way these dedicated providers keep margin as they do is by shanking you on little things like KVM over IP ($220 to set it up?).

You are wayyyyy better off sharing the cost of a colo'd 1U with others to offset your cost, in almost every case.

Well for a VPS, KVM over IP is as simple as running some piece of free software, as opposed to having the same thing on a real server where you need expensive equipment. This explains the cost. And as I said, the console is indeed expensive if you want it permanently, but is free for 2 hours and we seldomly needed it more.

Now if you are set with the computing power provided by a 20$ VPS that's another thing, I'm just saying, if you need more you should consider a dedicated server or maybe collocation.

Linodes give you four Xeon cores, and frequently outperform many low to mid-range dedicated servers.

Well anyway, we've had one of the servers hosted with these guys with 300+ days uptime (until we rebooted for a kernel upgrade). Our experience so for with them has been positive and I would recommend them anytime for hosting.

You have to consider out-of-band console access (which VPS services provide), you're not responsible for hardware failures (your VPS provider is, and will replace transparently without your involvement), support is available 24/7 beyond "please reboot my server", and transit typically ends up cheaper and you don't have to deal with it. You also don't have to pay for remote hands (oh, look, you do there). All around a much better solution for hosting than any dedicated plan in the world.

Happiness is not having to know how many RAID drives died to bring you this information. (Statistically speaking I'm pretty sure I've burned through at least one drive somewhere in St. Louis, but I never had to worry about it.)

as I alluded to in the other comment,

I run a few popular websites, can experiment with new fancy server technologies, and have pretty much every need covered for $20pm.

why would I possibly pay $150 setups and 150% times the monthly charge if I dont need anymore?

I think my case is where linode has hit its sweet spot, obviously if you start needing some heftier processing / bandwidth you would look elsewhere. I would take a guess that most of the people on the bigger plans are people that are growing and mostly looking elsewhere

They want the best deal they can get for $20, not $57 (€39). The price point is important.

https://www.linode.com/avail.cfm

Better hurry to snap up those available Linode14400's.

I've heard a lot of good things about Linode, but I can't say I'm thrilled at the moment. I have a site partially hosted on Linode and the Dallas datacenter has had two failures in the past month, during our busiest time of the day. People going to our site at noon and the page not finishing because the image server is down (with all our ads) is clearly a very bad situation.

It's not really a sign of reliability how I can't even get their blog to load.... It's been loading the entire time I was writing this and I've only received the page title so far! What's going on over there?

Interestingly enough for anecdotes, I've had a VPS running from the Dallas datacenter, and haven't had any outages (that I've known about) since I signed up a year ago. I've been more impressed with Linode that I even was with Slicehost.

I have another server with Slicehost, and it's been down once in the past year. Overall I'm somewhat more please with Slicehost. These are the two linode issues that affected us:

http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4822&sid=1c... http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4908&sid=1c...

Sounds like there may be routing trouble between your ISP and the Linode datacenter (unless you're getting a _lot_ of reports from users). During the downtime, get a traceroute to your server and report it in a ticket. You might also want to try requesting a migration to another datacenter, where you might have better luck.

Both times I've had issues it was definitely not my connection. One time the disk went out on our cluster, and they also 'took the opportunity' to apply an upgrade. The next time it was 'network problems' at the datacenter. Both of these were reported on their status (except the second time, I couldn't even access their forum/status pages).

It's hard to find a good (reasonably priced) VPS provider in the UK. This is fantastic news. I've been considering moving from The Rackspace Cloud to Linode for a while now.

Just signed up. My average ping is now 11ms!

I should have noted in the title that it's in London, UK.

Interesting. Being a cautious sort, though, I think I'll wait and see how they weather their first few failures there before getting one.

What's the difference? The data center employees handle physical stuff. It's not like the Linode HQ is close to Atlanta, Dallas or Fremont, either.

Well, that's the theory. Better let someone else take on Murphy to determine if it's true in practice.

It would be great if they added a datacenter in South America (eg in São Paulo, Brazil).

Already migrated. Less than three minutes from submitting the ticket I got the response and started the process. It took some time to get disks copied, but overall everything went flawlessly. I am impressed.

A similar experience here. Submitted the ticket and received email notification of a reply 3 minutes later. Migrating 12GB looks like it's going to take about 90 minutes.

Can't fault them so far.

This is pretty awesome. I've got a few VPS's with linode at their 3 other datacenters, I'm glad to be able to open up one here for a new monitoring node. I think they're the most well-run VPS provider I've dealt with.

Congrats to Tom & Chris on this one.

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