The war on big food
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The realization seems to be that there's really no reason for me to buy these kind of sugar/salt-packed opaque possibly-dangerous glorified ration packs that we call food in our supermarkets.
The irony is that the ambiguity/confusion of nutrition has been a good way for the industry to sell its garbage for generations, but now people are so cognizant of the complexity of diet that they want to narrow down the possibilities to the simplest thing possible, and that's not good for the complex food industry. This also makes sense:
> Confectioneries have held up in part because there was never any confusion over whether they’re an indulgence.
It's the rest of the food that people eat when they're "being good" that they care about.
Food and nutrition should not be an industry. What I mean by that is there needs to be more concerns besides production efficiency and profit.
2. http://civileats.com/2014/12/10/organic-nearly-as-productive... References several as well
While yields are marginally lower in a given swath of land under certain conditions (example when there is perfect climate and water supply, an increasingly rare trend in the United States), it is my belief that if equitable research dollars were devoted to organic production as opposed to corn, soy, soy and cotton (which also don't feed people in starving countries, but rather meat in rich ones) those small differences in yields would be overcome. Further more, many studies note that industrial agriculture is significantly less resilient and that organic ag, and other forms of agroecology, are actually more productive during times of drought.
Furthermore, 70% of the world's food supply comes from small farmers using agroecological methods in developing countries, not large food industries. Increasing their capacity is the solution to feeding starving people while maintaining our planet's health. Sorry for the late response.
Especially with goods that are sold, especially in America. Aren't we supposed to all be completely and totally enamored with capitalism and are't we all spoon fed the line that "The market will sort things out"? Because I see this as capitalism and the free market doing what conservatives always bark about it doing- the market following along with consumer demand. And yeah we can sit here and argue till we're blue in the face about whether or not the marketing behind that consumer spending shift is sound or not or "fair" or not, but at the end of the day, people are voting with their wallets and they're voting against the old guard, and the old guard is panicking and flailing about because they see that change is coming and they don't want to have to change.
There's a difference between Ideology X being used to apologize for what established powers wanted to do anyway, and actually taking Ideology X so seriously that it impedes the established powers.
Some observations on the transition: -Expensive fresh items are easy to grow in small amounts of space (e.g. herbs, berries) -"discrete meat is a treat": we eat steaks, fillets, etc. less frequently and instead use stocks, bake vegetables in animal fats, fry veggie cakes, and the like instead -Charcuterie is amazing: pork and chicken are relatively expensive, and a lot of the French preparations take very little time to prepare to serve -Fruits and vegetables at farmers' markets are only marginally more expensive -Our farmer's markets are a mixture of certified organic and conventional produce. We buy both, what matters more is that it is small-scale. -Growing your own isn't for everyone, and is certainly more expensive than buying it through a store (factoring in opportunity cost for time and land, and you don't get economies of scale). However, I would recommend it as a hobby to pretty much anyone on HN: I spend 8-12 hours a day on a computer, so spending 2-4 hours a week planting things, pruning fruit trees, thinking through drip irrigation systems, and learning about soil ecology is a ton of IRL fun.
We are very conscious that our diet is not 'natural' or in some way a reversion to older ways of life. I can get ridiculously cheap drip irrigation equipment on Amazon Prime delivered to my door, many of the vendors at the farmer's market take Stripe, and there's no such thing as a crop failure in mid 21st century coastal California. Our food system is what's next, no what came before.
I'd really like to see a study done on how many people follow these diets for medical reasons, diagnosed or not, and how many people are doing it for 'fad' reasons.
I'm not diagnosed with anything, but I've had these problems my entire life and discovered the root cause by an elimination diet. If a hospital had pointed out these issues when I was a child or teenager, it would have changed my life. Recently when I brought up these issues to my doctor his response was more or less 'well then don't eat gluten'.
Big food is losing market share and I'm sure they're fighting back. Not to get too conspiracy theory but all the media on GF sensitivity being made up has made me doubt myself multiple times, and multiple times I have regretted those decisions to 'test to confirm'.
All told, I feel a lot better with the dietary changes I've made, and from the health issues I hear other people describe I think they could benefit from an elimination diet as well. If you have gas, diarrhea, or a stuffy nose/sinus headaches on a regular basis, look at your diet as it could change your life. Unless of course you enjoy those symptoms, in that case, carry on!
The amazing thing is just how much corn is in the American diet. It's everywhere. Crammed into every inch of pre-processed food. Pretty much set us up for having to go back to making food from scratch and eating a lot of whole foods which has been my diet ever since. No soda, no corn chips, no cereal, except home-made granola, very few processed "box" foods. Instead I'm sentenced to a life of eating whole vegetables, fruits, meat and cheese... the horror! (j/k)
Eliminating corn from my diet while I was still young, I feel really set me up to continue eating healthy throughout my life and opened my family's eyes to the sheer amount of corn in everything in America.
Becoming a foodie makes the incremental change in nutrition easier. Reward yourself with awesome meals with the freshest ingredients, instead of mourning the loss of daily comfort food like pizza.
Specifically, I'm claiming processed foods follow a fad trajectory, unlike, say, apples or steak, and fad trajectory shows natural decay over time, and there simply are no new processed food fads that are gaining traction.
The closest thing I can find to a current processed food fad, is about a year ago there was an attempt to push greek yogurt into freaking everything, but that seems to have failed. A few years ago there was a push for ready to eat rice on shelf stable bags, but that kind of rice tasted like contaminated styrofoam so I only bought it a couple times.
Its hard to believe but just a few decades ago things like frozen pizza, hot pockets, and pop tarts were new and vibrant food fads. What we call processed food in 2015 was actually NEW in maybe the 80s. There just isn't anything new anymore.
Agreed. There's been a shift where the focus isn't on introducing new products. Instead, focus has been on expanding the options within already established items. Eg. more flavors of chips, more types of hummus, different sizes of the same products, gluten free/HMO/low sugar versions, etc. Have you been in the cereal section lately? There are about 10 flavors of frosted mini wheats. Part of this trend could be that consumers are facing severe decision fatigue and end up opting for simpler (and in most cases cheaper) products.
Even 10-15 years ago, %90 of what the average person learned about food came from mass media ads. Now it's probably %90 social media. In this world, mass produced food is practically the definition of "unshareable" - there's not much interesting about something that's inherently common and such food usually isn't too photogenic. Like so many products on the internet, this is a world where "the long tail" of food products, restaurants and even recipes can thrive like never before.
More than anything, I think there's a healthy competitive dynamic going on - food is legitimately getting better. Yelp reviews give local restaurants equal footing with national brands. Restaurants of all stripes have to compete with their own consumers, who have easier access to good recipes (and greater incentive to cook).
[0]: https://www.brewersassociation.org/press-releases/craft-brew... [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anheuser-Busch_InBev
I understand people who buy "junk mayo" (I do, more often than I'd like to admit) but I really don't understand why you would buy "high end mayo", because, if you're quality-conscious, how hard is it to make your own?
Or is this some kind of vegan mayo? But it's also possible to make your own mayonnaise with no eggs.
What is not possible however, is for a product that has to sit on shelves for any period of time to have no preservatives and no pasteurisation.
I don't care too much what is in the actual product unless its the lowest priced products which usually contain some disgusting stuff (mechanical chicken etc).
Note: this is comparing Sainsbury's standard to organic range.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_meat_recovery
The crowd most likely to buy that product likely will have a negative emotional illogical response to food irradiation but it would technically work.
For awhile irradiated ground beef was available and I bought it all the time, no difference in taste and 0% chance of food poisoning. I was talked out of it by someone making the point that sterilizing the product means the mfgr has no motivation to keep shit and other slaughterhouse waste out of the product, because no matter what it is, blood, maggots, urine, bodily waste, it'll all be made sterile and 0% chance of food poisoning. That was a little gross. Regardless if its irradiated or not, this is going to be an issue for anything preserved. If someone can sneeze into the mayo and nothing happens, that means little motivation will exist not to sneeze into the mayo, which is pretty gross.
I'm sorry, but that is incorrect and you were misled. Food poisoning is not directly caused by micro-organisms but by their excreted byproducts. If you take a rotten piece of meat, irradiate it and cook it well-done, you will still get sick. If you take a can that is bulging with botulism, irradiate it and thoroughly cook it, you will still get sick. Because while the micro-organisms are dead, the toxin (literal toxin, not "chemicals") is still present.
For an analogy: boiling water will sterilize it, but not do anything about turbid mud or arsenic or other non-living contaminates. Irradiating food does not mean you get to be lax in other standards.
Ingredients: Non-GMO Expeller Pressed Canola Oil, Filtered Water, Lemon Juice, White Vinegar, 2% or less of the following: Organic Sugar, Salt, Pea Protein, Spices, Modified Food Starch, Beta-Carotene. Just Mayo is also available with preservative.
yup
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/11/business/unilever-sues-a-s...
Big Corps are already shifting... my favorite personal example is Heinz ketchup... they make a simple ketchup called Simply Heinz. Awesome.
I was surprised about the mandate for sugar. I wanted to see who managed to get that rule passed. A quick search led me to the FDA site for rules of catsup: http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRS...
There doesn't appear to be any requirement for sugars here. Maybe your grocer got it wrong?
That doc does list sweetener, but its one of three ingredients listed as "one, or any two or more" which I guess means one or more?
Yet it will be interesting to see what happens to people's choices when after years of moving to easy to understand foods their health doesn't improve. The one connection most of them haven't made is that it isn't necessarily the types of food they are eating but simply the volume especially related to their activity levels.
Some of the sauces are totally gross corn syrup ketchup level sweet.
Maximal processed food profit does occur when everything sold is a glazed donut, but when everything tastes like that, flavor and interest is lost.
https://youtu.be/_dqKmOLpofo?t=25m40s
The original poster on this comment thread is really wrong when he says that being able to trace back your food to standard ingredients will not help your health. It's extremely unlikely that someone cooking their own food would put 60g of sugar into their evening meal. Imagine cooking for a family of five, and putting a quarter of a kilo of sugar into the recipe!
So you don't believe any of it. It will be interesting to see what people attribute the increase in people's health to then. Just keep in mind that modern commercial medicine knows nothing about prevention - only treatments that are generally not cures. So if we see a drop in disease in 10 years, what will you attribute it to?