If the default response was not to try to punish and remove those with differing views, transgender people would most likely have a much different history.
If the default response was not to try to punish and remove those with differing views, transgender people would most likely have a much different history.
In the strictest sense, yes. The same way convicts can be truthfully said to be opressed or marginalized. That doesn't mean it's not deserved.
> That they deserve our respect?
Only in that a large basis for what we believe to be acceptable or not comes from cultural norms, which can change over time, so it's a good stand-by to treat personal opinions and choices as irrelevant for professional decisions where possible. There are of course points at which it's hard to argue that someone's personal choices and decisions are affecting other aspects of their life and the people around them.
In other words, I don't respect all opinions, but I respect people's right to have an opinion I don't agree with.
I get that the aggression is unhelpful, but your comment ignores the years of murder, rape, and beatings that trans people have been through.
I understand the desires of the transgender community, and my desires align with theirs, I want to see vocally transphobic people punished in some manner. I accept that as my nature. I also believe we are all better off if we keep these desires in check, to a degree. It's too easy to feel justified when the situation is reversed.
Do you also think it would be a sad irony for a person of color to want a KKK member off the team?
This comment is so bad and lacking so much empathy as to be harmful. Ugh.
Yes, for the exactly the same reasons I stated, as long as the KKK member just expressed views, and there weren't associated actions (maybe membership in the KKK is enough if there are dues and those go towards specific actions?)
> This comment is so bad and lacking so much empathy as to be harmful. Ugh.
I do empathize, but if we turn this around, and it was a transgender person under pressure to leave from a transphobic person, how is the argument different? Keep in mind that if your argument uses social norms, how would it play out 20 or 30 years ago? How would you defend the right of transgender people then?
I submit that a safe default to protect marginalized people to some degree, independent of social norms so that it's less susceptible to current public opinion, is to default to leaving people's personal opinions out of other aspects of their lives.
Sometimes it means letting people get away with bad behavior, such as transgender slander, but other times it allows for marginalized people that face extreme penalties from society for personal decisions to survive, and I think that's worthwhile.
It's the concept of free speech, expanded. Though I may hate what you say,I will defend your right to say it, and protect you from excessive social punishment.