Facial recognition technology is everywhere, and it may not be legal
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As the computer looped through its banks, it projected every conceivable eye color, hair color, shape and type of nose, formation of teeth, configuration of facial bone structure - the entire shroudlike membrane took on whatever physical characteristics were projected at any nanosecond, then switched to the next...
In any case, the wearer of a scramble suit was Everyman and in every combination (up to combinations of a million and a half sub-bits) during the course of each hour. Hence, any description of him - or her - was meaningless.
From A Scanner Darkly, by Philip K. Dick.
Published by Not Known in 1977
Although at least in Germany this will collide with masking regulations (you are not allowed to mask in public gatherings).
In France in particular, there's a full ban in public places, even if there's no gathering.
Also imagine that the cops have the ability to sift through and read those post-its at mechanical speeds.
Also, instead of cops they are Wal-Mart greeters.
Then you get closer to reality than the comic did regarding the topic of computer vision.
Joking aside, I think you were primed to interpret the comic in a specific way which may not have been the intent. I don't think it was saying much about the state of surveillance using computer vision as much as it was showing the absurdity, at this point, of using a method that prevents computer vision from working but also makes you uniquely and easily identifiable. Eventually, if enough of the populace takes up a similar method of obfuscating their identity, then it's useful, as you are again anonymized as one among many, but until then you are an anonymous member of a very small group (possibly containing only you), which itself isn't very hard to identify. Not all that useful.
I've come to the conclusion that there won't be a great shift forward in these technologies until someone comes along and completely reinvents the concept of privacy itself. I've seen retailer after retailer try to implement improvements to consumer experience (either through beacons and directed coupons or through some sort of identity recognition) only to be met with ENORMOUS backlash [1] from consumers freaking out because the store can tell where they are in the store at any given time. In security, iris recognition, voice recognition, and facial recognition are all methods of identification that cannot be stolen and yet all are methods of identification that freak people out to no end. They'd rather carry around an ID that can be stolen, copied, and sold on the black market thus ruining their financial livelihood for the rest of their lives than switch over to a more reliable biometric based method of identification
Privacy as we knew it is dead. It died a long time ago; hell you could probably argue that it started to die the first time anyone published a phone book because if I knew your name then I could figure out where you lived. Biometrics, to me, is a recapturing of privacy and personal identification because you no longer have to worry about relying on third parties to protect your identity (which is obviously not working [2]), YOU ARE YOUR IDENTITY. Your face, your voice, your fingerprint, your iris, all of these things cannot be spoofed and are uniquely yours and cannot be taken away from you.
As for the article, this is a perfect example of the kinds of things that require a reinvention of the notion of privacy. Used to be if you were captured on camera in public no one knew who you were unless someone you knew saw that picture and could identify you. Now with facial recognition, that's not possible anymore. But Pandora's box has been opened and it cannot be shut again so articles like this just seem totally pointless in light of that- they're missing the fundamental issue that facial recognition is a thing that exists and it's not going to stop existing just because we're all unsure how we feel about it. Yes I absolutely agree that facial recognition needs to be an opt-in where it can be, like on Facebook or Twitter or whatever. However we're living in a time when absolute right to privacy and anonymity in public no longer exists, and we need to figure out how to navigate that fast or else all of this biometric technology that can and should be used to make life easier is going to be regulated all to hell and we'll be stuck in paranoia-ville and afraid to leave our homes.
[1]http://consumerist.com/2013/05/10/nordstrom-decides-to-stop-... [2]http://www.cnbc.com/id/102752205
> They'd rather carry around an ID that can be stolen, copied, and sold on the black market thus ruining their financial livelihood for the rest of their lives than switch over to a more reliable biometric based method of identification
That's a problem with the financial institutions, not a problem with privacy. Reliable biometric identification is not a requirement for safe finances.
Credit bureaus having way too much power over the lives of individuals (see, privacy!) is as big a part of the problem.
Using that data to track users in the shop is not. That's just Big Data.
If you're also interested in hot spots around the shop to optimize ways and where to present high value items, those can be obtained through different means (eg. light barriers that simply count and send accumulated data every 10 minutes - no need to infer where any given customer has been at any time).
When wondering about "ID that can be stolen, copied, and sold on the black market thus ruining their financial livelihood for the rest of their lives", there are several ways to approach it. One of them involves making loss of ID instruments a less severe event.
"ID theft protection services" is a business model I've only seen in the US.
It's not privacy that's broken, but lazy and unambitious business models that collect data first and think about how to use it second, and tolerate that abuse of that data leads to horrible outcomes every now and then (as long as it's on somebody else's dime).
So your concern is that privacy gets in the way of commercializing biometric technology. May it do that for a long, long time.
So iBeacon provides a proper solution? Great. What's your point - that privacy-friendly solutions are possible? Then we're in violent agreement (see my original reply in this thread).
I'm absolutely on the side of wanting to come up with those as yet unknown solutions, and I abhor all of the people who say "well just don't be doing anything illegal and then it won't matter!" I'm suggesting a fundamental shift in the underlying societal zeitgeist which, I realize, is a huge stretch and a bit of a pipe dream, but I can still hope.
To clarify- I'm NOT saying it shouldn't be regulated, and I'm NOT saying we need to move to some sort of post-privacy utopia, I am saying "Gee it'd be nice if we moved past the hand wringing and started coming up with ways to use this technology in beneficial ways.)
And you can't take them away from other people, nor revoke them when they are "compromised". In particular for faces and voices, they can be used to identify you without your knowledge and consent. That means they can be used to discriminate against you on whatever basis the discriminator chooses. This may just be price discrimination, which is what people are concerned about in the retail context. Or it may be more extreme. You could use it to deny job applications or credit to anyone who'd been at a political demonstration filmed by police, for example.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/opensecurity/val-swain/disrupt...
We have enough trouble with the simple human-recognisable biometric classifier of "race" being used to discriminate against people.
How many people have escaped genocides with fake passports, or fake laissez-passer?
Worry that biometric will make it harder to escape being sent to the gulag, not that Walmart will deny you store credit.
I'm reminded of https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/IBM.h...
In some ways we have the reverse situation prevailing; people are successfully escaping the genocidal collapse of the middle east into Europe, but are under threat of deportation by increasingly determined immigration enforcement.
pjc50 (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9705558) says exactly that:
> This may just be price discrimination, which is what people are concerned about in the retail context. Or it may be more extreme. You could use it to deny job applications or credit to anyone who'd been at a political demonstration filmed by police, for example.
Simply "hiding" your biometrics or banning biometric identification altogether would be moving backwards in the bigger picture, which I'd compare to forbidding evolution research because it's against religious teaching.
The US equal protection clause dates from 1868, and yet not just racism but actually unequal law enforcement is still widespread.
The BackStory podcast had a recent episode on the history of surveillance in America:
http://backstoryradio.org/shows/keeping-tabs-2/
Among other topics, one segment discussed how a racist official in Virginia used data collected in the 19th century to protect free African Americans as part of his effort to enforce racial purity laws in the 20th century:
“HELEN ROUNTREE: In the county courthouses, there was another kind of record made, and that was the register of free Negroes. He had to get a certificate stating that they were of free birth, otherwise they could be kidnapped and sold into slavery.
The law about that went in in 1806. Plecker was able to get copies of those registers – every county had one. And then if he got a tip later and he could have his people trace geologically back to a free negro register, he had that present-day person as a person of African ancestry.”
The full segment is worth listening to:
Update: So I have been doing much Googling and can't find an accurate account of that happening. It appears there are some reports of it happening in Maylasia but that was for vehicles. Better yet is that in South Africa they are just blowing up the ATM's or ripping them outhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1198626/South-Africa..., which honestly makes more sense.
I did see that Poland is pushing out some new ATM's, that are also used in Japan, that use the pattern of veins instead of finger prints. The state this means the finger has to be attached to the person
If you're willing to cut people's fingers off and then walk to the ATM, you'd be willing to simply rob people in some other much easier and much more reliable way.
It seems that about a year ago someone was considering such ATMs [1]. Are you sure this isn't just the fears of people (as mentioned in the article) blown into urban legend?
[1] http://www.news24.com/Technology/News/Fingerprint-ATMs-Will-...
Shoplifters - get this - will often wait until there isn't someone standing next to them before taking something off the shelf. Sounds like a good go at rationality to me.
Of course rational thieves exist. Not hyper-rational fictional models, but rational. The degree of rationality is a spectrum, as always, and is affected by physical and mental health and various other factors, but if you think rational thieves are a new concept, then you're living in some kind of fantasy world.
Desperate people do desperate things for small, or often no gain.
People are injured or killed all the time over possessions they may or may not have on them.
http://beforeitsnews.com/christian-news/2014/01/use-cash-tra...
Not the first time I read this. It seems that in USA the identity theft issue is a very big one... even someone knowing your bank account number is hugely risky, from what I read. This not need be like this, there are other countries where this is adequately protected by law.
In Europe is normal for small businesses to publish their bank account so people can send them the money of a purchase, and that does not put them in risk. Also, for me it is unheard of that someone had a problem because his/her ID got stolen. Credit cards? Ok. But ID?
Is it a law issue? A financial industry one? (Another poignant thing for me is the degree to which US, France and other countries still use the cheque, or the problems to pay with international cards - visa / mastercard / amex - in Germany).
For example, create a law that forces a business that transacts with an identity thief to pay to the victim three times (or whatever) the amount spent in their name as compensation. Then you might see some changes being discussed.
IDs get lost/stolen all the time. They are sometimes used by crooks to do nasty stuff, such as try (and sometimes succeeding) to open companies in your name, bank accounts and the like.
However, should you lose your ID, you need to go to a police station to file what's called a "BO" (loosely translated 'accident report'). This can be done electronically these days (unless there was violence involved).
Should an identity theft happen, this document is usually enough to clear you up of any wrongdoing. And to undo whatever damage, financial or otherwise. It can still be a hassle, but nowhere near "ruining the financial livehood", much less for the rest of one's life.
It helps that checks are almost dead already and all bills can be paid electronically.
"ID theft" really means "credit fraudulently obtained in one's name". That this is a problem for the person whose name was used and not the business defrauded is a tribute to the US's strong pro-business culture.
I am picking on poor Zuck here but we all know whatever wealth gets generated from biometrics is going to land up in the hands of the few who already own all our data.
It's also the case that fingers, voice and eyes can be taken from a person. It's a brutally violent act, but it's quite possible. Maybe not in way that is useful in attacking biometric security, but think denial of service...
What we need is to take the thin concepts around publicity rights and expand them a bit. So for instance, Walmart probably has reasonable business reasons to track purchases, but society can push back and say that they are not allowed to publish those observations without the permission of the observed (or at least clear notification).
I'd rather have my ID token stolen than my finger chopped off.
A quibble, but perhaps not a minor one. Privacy and anonymity are not the same thing. While it's possible to argue that the U.S. constitution confers a right of privacy, I am not aware of any serious argument that it also confers a right of anonymity.
> Privacy as we knew it is dead
I wonder if the next round of physical criminal technology advances will be about shielding and forging identities, using fake fingerprints (3d printed, perhaps), fake contacts (again, perhaps 3d printable?), fake faces (again, perhaps 3d printable, plus makeup?), fake gaits/comportment (which can be disguised or imitated, with enough practice).
And where that's not practical, like DNA evidence at crime scenes, there will be countermeasures. The second episode of Almost Human comes to mind, with its passing mention of "DNA bombs" that shower a room with what I expect was imagined as lots and lots of dna snippets, or perhaps rapid-growing bacteria or fungi with many engineered variants of human STR loci to FUBAR PCR analysis.
If, instead, there were limits on what could be shared and companies were credibly liable for misuse, breaches, etc. I think many people would be far less concerned with use of information.
> Your face, your voice, your fingerprint, your iris, all of these things cannot be spoofed and are uniquely yours and cannot be taken away from you.
Conversely, this illustrates how important it is to have massive penalties – on the scale of “you are out of business and managers cannot have a position of authority involving personal data for years” – for storing biometric data because there's no way to recover when it's compromised. This is particularly important when you realize that biometric data cannot be trusted over a network connection so there's no point in deploying biometric systems anyway because they can only be trusted when one entity has end-to-end control over the entire system.
What should be deployed is PKI which, unlike direct biometrics, can be made robust against compromises using a revocation mechanism. This also allows biometrics to be used safely because you could have an authenticator which uses biometrics which never leave the device and has no replay value for an attacker once a compromise has been discovered.
Consider the recent breach at the U.S. Office of Personnel Management. The attackers reportedly got everything listed on background and security clearance applications, which burns every common authentication system because the attacker could easily answer most “security” questions. Consider how much worse that would have been if biometrics were in common use and scans of fingerprints, voice or iris patterns, etc. were also available to the attacker.
Europe is on a path to technological stagnation and demographic collapse. There's a reason its economy is depressed, its electricity fantastically expensive, its people angry, its programmer wages depressed, and its startup scene anemic.
Europeans refuse to embrace modern technology like genetic modification and nuclear power, much less allow the flourishing of information technology. They'd rather comfort themselves with their pseudoscience and their precautionary principle and their Luddite privacy regulations than join the rest of world in imagining something better.
Europe is absolutely no model to emulate.
The shortsighted and fearful German Greens are making that country shut down nuclear plants and switch to filty brown coal: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-04-14/coal-rises...
ITER isn't getting nearly enough funding, and it took a fucking decade to decide on the place to build it.
Europeans have the same fearful attitude toward GMOs.
And that is the crux of the issue. It needs to be made a right and enforced like every other right. The problem is that it isn't and it is like the wild west when it comes to people's privacy and data. Given the rapid rise of big data and the surveillance state I would say that a time of flux is just starting. My sincere hope is that it ends with strengthened rights for the individual. I am not convinced it will, however.
One common failure of biometrics is that they often fail to work reliably and then you have to offer a feedback mechanism that offers really low security. Security is always only as strong as its weakest link.
http://arxiv.org/abs/1412.1897
Not to mention bio-engineering possibilities on the horizon. Of course, just because we can use a certain technology doesn't mean we should...
Maybe I'm misunderstanding your focus here, but face, fingerprints, iris and voice prints have all been spoofed - some of them trivially easily. Fingerprints are particularly problematic as you leave them on most things you touch. Fingerprints have been lifted off of objects and fooled scanners with apparatus as everyday as gummi bears...
It's not a magical 'point and fry' solution, more like a take up position and stand around for half an hour or so while the laser systematically hits every bit of the sensor long enough to fry it. A hammer would be a lot more effective (assuming you can reach the camera).
So would a can of spray paint.
You often see the hat. You rarely see what it looks like to various cameras.