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Not quite Stalin's daughter, but Putin's daughter has a dutch s.o. and lived in NL, I'm less than proud of how she was treated here before she moved back to Moscow, somehow people thought that she's a way to get back at Putin for MH17 (which is commonly believed to have been downed by Russian troops stationed in East-Ukraine, all the proof seems to confirm that to date even though Russia is still in full-on denial about it).

Being the daughter or son of a person like that has to be very hard, you can't really escape your heritage even if you personally have done nothing wrong.

Of course Putin (for now) doesn't hold a candle to Stalin.

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Slightly OT: By chance I read the news about MH17 in the very first minutes of its disappearance from the radar and minutes later I saw news about Strelkov's tweeter account publishing several tweets about a downed "Ukrainian plane" and pictures with smoke in Torez area, tweets which later disappeared completely. I translated with translate.google the tweets just to make sure they matched what the news said and I even saved a screen capture somewhere because I knew the things will get muddled later. This made me have very little doubt that MH17 was shot down by the rebels.

Mind sharing the screenshot?

I searched the photo before I posted the previous message but as usually, when you need something you can't find it. I remember talking to some friends and showing them the screen capture but now I can't localize it on 2 of the 3 computers where I might have saved it. For me it was interesting to observe how the russian special services distracted the attention from this and put forward other "facts", circumstances and "proofs". Basically if you can't suppress some information, then you cover it with noise and in the end no one is sure of anything.

It's easily found by Googling for images with the keyword "птичкопад".

That's not a tweet though.

Yeah. I was closely following the news, and the separatists bragged about shooting down another Ukrainian plane (they downed few helicopters and planes earlier).

Of course as soon as they knew it was foreign civilian plane they started to deny it.

This might be of interest, this the intercept of several phone calls by Ukrainian intelligence service (SBU) where separatists discuss the indecent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvAyXVS-Qj8

If you trust SBU (and know russian) then that's reasonable proof, but if you trust only tweeter and https, it helps a lot when the rebel's commander admits freely on tweeter they were behind some incident.

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