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Yes, I've done Java in the enterprise. It's a 20 year old language and there's an estimated 9 million Java developers.

Swift is only one1 but with open source and cross-platform ability (Microsoft will port to Windows), I think we have several million Swift developers with 5 years.

[Update] 30 -> 20

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As much as I like Swift, without real garbage collection I wouldn't want to use it an any enterprise project. Keeping track of ownership of reference counted objects shared between who knows how many other objects sounds like a nightmare.

There's nothing to keep track of, all reference counting is handled through ARC which is built in to the compiler.

I'm referring to cases where you have to use unowned, etc, to break reference cycles. The larger the application the harder it is to find these issues.

> It's a 30 year old language

20.

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