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1. Vista is from early 2007. Windows 7 is from 2009. So if you compare you'r 2009 mac to a windows machine, it should be to a Windows 7. 2. If by free you mean as in 0 price (if you mean as in liberty then WTF), then your wish just came true: Windows 10 will be a free upgrade, and it's a major release.

I agree the past few years was a mess for MS, but things are changing and so should the public opinion.

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Windows 10 is a free upgrade only for the first year.

I also don't understand what happens with my Windows 8.1 license after that ... so if I format my laptop after that first year, will I still be able to install Windows 10 on it? I'm not so sure I can, plus their wording on Windows receiving upgrades for "the lifetime of the device" is confusing; so does this mean that the notion of a retail license that you can move between PCs is gone?

So you see, Microsoft has yet to reveal their new licensing model, therefore I wouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions ;-)

The free upgrade offer expires after a year.

Your license of Windows 10 doesn't.

This doesn't answer any of the concerns I outlined. I do hope we are speaking the same language :-)

Well the Mac Mini is the same age as the laptop in question. Early 2009. Windows 7 was released mid-2009.

This is kind of a nitpick. I can come back at you and moan about TRIM support on a 3rd party SSD in that same Mac Mini - no problem in that Windows 7 laptop. That's about equally relevant.

Having gone thru a nightmare trying to upgrade a Mac Mini to Mavericks - obscure error messages, things that "just don't work", and search results leading to forum posts that said "The problem went away when I took out the PNY RAM and put back in the Apple OEM RAM", I'm a little more hostile toward Apple products than I am to the "Wintel" environment.

*In the end we wound up buying a new Mac Mini. We needed Mavericks for website testing.

On the other hand, I had no trouble upgrading 2007 MacBook Pros to Mavericks, even with third-party hard drives and RAM. Your nightmare experience is certainly not representative.

I've always had issues (and pleasantness) using any OS whether it was Macs, Windows, iOS, or Android. I don't really believe that one operating system is better than another in a general sense. At this point they are all way better than what we had even just 5 years ago.

Well Vista release in late 2006.

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