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Mailing lists on google groups, which is fine by me, but annoys a lot of people.

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Is there a better alternative out there that isn't a web forum?

My projects have been stuck on Google Groups for a long time, and I want to escape.

if you want a plain old mailing list: http://librelist.com/

Especially because you cannot even read them without JavaScript or signing up.

No mirrors?

Why? I just subscribed to all messages and use it as any other mailing list – in my email.

google tries very hard to leave the impression that you must have a gmail/google/google+ (not sure, haven't had the misfortune of doing this for some time) account to subscribe.

agreed having google account is necessary nowadays =(

I don't see a problem here, you can just get a gmail account and read mail however you like still, configuring mail client of choice.

UPDATE: wow, didn't know you can't even read messages without being google-user. Yeah, that's boorish a bit.

UPDATE2: turned out that's not true. You can read google group perfectly fine without signing in: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tmux-users

Assuming there are only 2 threads, Otherwise, that only shows the public threads.

Yeah, as I understand they just moved from Sourceforge, since signed-in, I also see just 2 threads.

so you were misled and confused by google into thinking you need a google account, if only for a while. they try hard to manipulate people. do you see the problem now? yes, you can fight the stream of lies and misdirections, or you can say "thanks, but no, thanks".

You can subscribe via email without any google account by sending a message to <groupname>+subscribe @ googlegroups.com, then it acts just like any other mailing list.

This[1] also used to work, but it's been a while since I've used it. Basically just hits this url:

  http://groups.google.com/group/%(groupname)s/boxsubscribe?email=%(email)s

[1] https://github.com/bsandrow/google-group-join

Does this work for you? https://groups.google.com/forum/?_escaped_fragment_=forum/tm...

It works here with Firefox+noscript, but in w3m it messes up when you read an article and forces you to a "need JS" page. I might have added some other hack somewhere in FFx ages ago to get groups working that I've forgotten about.

Oh, wow. Works for me. Confirmed that Noscript is required or any link you click redirects you back to the "rich" site.

This is awesome. Thank you for sharing. It's ugly, but who cares? Finally I can have more than one google groups window tab open and still have smooth scrolling without the javascript flailing around so hard my fans kick in.

Thats fantastic, thanks!

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