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I personally installed Ramaze on my Ubuntu box. And I must say it's very light weight compared to Rails. I mean you don't even have to generate controllers via the terminal. You can just write it down on your favorite text editor and Ramaze.start then off you go. Well that is you have to use the terminal to start Webrick to run the Controller. But there doesn't seem to be any auto magic behind it. Which is good cuz I myself prefer to structure the app according to my own tastes.

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For what its worth, you certainly don't have to generate a Rails controller from the terminal. Its just a convenience method.

A question though: Several times throughout the article it talks about how Ramaze is not like Merb. However, based on the things they've said, it sounds a lot like Merb. (ORM agnosticim, for instance) Does anyone know how they actually differ?

The way I see it, Merb is an implementation of Rails from the ground up- it appeals to Rails users and follows very similar conventions as far as configuration, directory structure, support for REST and included helpers (form_for, input_field, etc like in Rails)

Ramaze, on the other hand, is very Ruby oriented in its implementation- it follows KISS and POLS religiously. It does not force any convention on you, you are free to choose your own directory structure and there's no configuration files involved.

Ramaze allows you to write an entire web-app in one file (see http://source.ramaze.net/source/examples/facebook.rb and http://source.ramaze.net/source/examples/ramaise.rb), which is not possible with Rails or Merb. Merb is great for RESTful applications and handles content negotiation very elegantly (with a simple 'provides :json, :xml' in your controller).

Agreed I love Ramaze's approach. And yes Tyler I agree with you on the terminal bit, my bad on that comparison. The point is that it's loads more fun to code in Ramaze as opposed to Rails. And I hope alot more people try it out too.

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