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Peace with Israel?! Never ever. Too much money for Big Weapons relies on Israel pretending to be threatened by its surrounding countries.

No country leader right in his mind, not even Kim Yong (all NK is after is more Western aid money and a bit of luxury goods for the elite, and potential nukes are a perfect way of extorting), would ever sign off a military attack against Israel, given its nuclear abilities and the support of NATO. Still, Israeli government successfully manipulates the entire world to believe they're threatened.

The only threat for Israel is its corrupt, right-wing-extremist government. Israel government complains all the time about raising anti-semitic behaviour worldwide yet completely ignores that it is the fault of Israeli government.

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Israel is a stable democracy which has been responsible with its nuclear weaponry for the past 30 years. Meanwhile, surrounding countries are unstable dictatorships which have routinely experienced coup d'etat, murder, and genocide against their own people and their neighbors. Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, are all dictatorial entities with significant portions of the population espousing verious messianic callings to wipe Israel off the map, kill all Jews, kill all Shia, kill all Sunni, bring order to Islam (ISIS), wipe out Kurds, etc. These types of unstable countries can not be allowed to obtain Nuclear weapons.

"Pretending"... Just because you live in a place where the existence of your country isn't threatened, doesn't make it not true for other places. Israel is in a place where you have 10s of thousands of rockets aimed at your population centers, UN member countries publicly threaten to wipe you off the map while creating a nuclear program. History of your surrounding countries trying to actually wipe you off the map, many many times...

The threat is real.

I don't believe that Iran would do as much as send a dummy conventional rocket towards Israel. Israel and the US would likely send enough nukes flying towards Teheran to vaporize the country for centuries before the Iranian missile crosses the border, and Iran leadership knows that.

It's just exaggerated v-penis comparisons, imho.

Because they can't just give a dirty bomb and smuggle into into Israel?

You can say but.. they will hurt the Muslim population.. but hmmmm what did Hezbollah did when they shot thousand of missiles at the norther part of Israel and hit many Arab villages or Hamas shooting and hitting Bedouin settlements in the south of Israel.. It's fine to kill "your own" as long as you take the infidels with them..

That same "I don't believe that they will do that" was said about Nazi Germany.. fool me once shame on me... fool me twice... oh nvm I'm dead...

The US promised to protect Israel in the first golf war, they shoot missiles that hit Tel-Aviv. Israel wanted to respond but the US asked Israel to hold back and they did.

US will not do Israels job for them.

> You can say but.. they will hurt the Muslim population..

Well, I'd actually say that Iran would have no benefit from that.

Really, the main threat to Israel from Iran -- or any of Israel's other regional foes -- getting nukes is that Israel's own nuclear arsenal would no longer provide it as free a hand in its own policies towards it neighbors as it has heretofore had, since it wouldn't be holding an unequaled trump in any runaway escalation provoked by Israel's policy choices.

I don't even understand what types of escalation you're talking about. Israel has peace aggreements with all its neighbourhood countries, and Israel being a nuclear power hasn't changed a thing for terrorist organisation which have attacked israel for the last 30 years.

All the trouble in the region comes from non-national entities, or state-sponsored terrorist organisations ( with daesh being a weird hybrid of the two). Letting iran have the nuclear bomb will only push conflicts toward even more terrorism, especially between shiite and sunnites.

Israel has peace agreements with Jordan and Egypt, but not its other neighbors, and fairly regularly engage in cross-border military operations, recently particularly in Syria.

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