Jawbone Accuses Fitbit of Stealing Information by Hiring Workers Away
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One could see how this sort of thing might have crossed a line. Perhaps Fitbit had no idea this was going on, or perhaps they hired people and implicitly or explicitly had them go in and get specific documents and information before leaving.
One of the things about civil litigation is that sort of thing can be revealed in discovery, via looking at internal emails, memos, and so on.
Some of those ex-employees broke the confidence and policies of Jawbone while employed there. That's the issue; Jawbone needs to address that with the individuals.
If they want an injunction preventing Fitbit from using the literal documents in question, or the specific confidential information about product roadmaps in the employees' heads, that seems appropriate, but it's unclear how you'd enforce it.
Fitbit is going to develop features in their hardware and software that compete in the market. Inevitably, some of those same features will have been on Jawbone's roadmap. The fact they get developed isn't proof to me that it was stolen.
Whats the potential outcome of this? I am not an expert about this kind of things in the US, but in Europe this would mean an invalidation (if any violation is proved) of the job contract. So the guy basically loses the job pretty much immediately and gets probably fined.
But its very common for sales types to take their contact list with them and I know one large UK employment Site had some one leave who took the entire candidate list with them.
No, I don't think that's a fair assessment at all. They specifically targeted their competitor's employees in order to get intel on their roadmap.
2. It's not at all unheard of for lawsuits to come out of the woodwork as an IPO approaches. And surely these lawsuits are all brought from the purest of motives; certainly no right-thinking company would ever try to intentionally disrupt its competitor's IPO, right?
3. Flashback: In the early 1990s, Computer Associates successfully sued a small company, Altai, for misappropriation of trade secrets. An Altai executive, who was a CA alumnus, recruited a CA product manager to work on an Altai product that competed with a CA product.
Unbeknownst to Altai, the former CA product manager brought CA code with him when he moved over. Altai had to rip out and replace the code and pay $364,000 in damages for infringement. (This was also a major scope-of-copyright-protection case concerning the replacement code.) [1] [2]
The dispute cost Altai a lot of money and, perhaps more importantly, time and reputation capital.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Associates_Internation....
[2] https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=639604498871411... -- see especially the part with the heading Dramatis personae.
"hiring Jawbone employees who improperly downloaded sensitive materials shortly before leaving."
"During her exit interviews, Ms. Rosario initially denied taking confidential information, but she later acknowledged downloading its “Market Trends & Opportunities” presentation, the complaint said."
Go after the individual employees for stealing from you, not fitbit for hiring them.
I think it's safe to assume that if they're pursuing this kind of lawsuit, they have realistic evidence.
I've known people who've done it and I've had to clean up after them when it came to light where the code for certain modules came from. It sucks.
They didn't have permission to download? or weren't supposed to be downloaded by employees who are leaving?
> Jawbone sued Fitbit in California State Court here on Wednesday, accusing its rival of “systematically plundering” confidential information by hiring Jawbone employees who improperly downloaded sensitive materials shortly before leaving.
Last paragraph:
> According to the court filing, Jawbone is seeking both financial damages and relief from the court to prevent the former employees from using the information Jawbone says they took from the company.
I'm no lawyer, but they could be in trouble even if they didn't get around to sharing documentation, but were planning on doing so after quitting and being courted by a rival.
We changed the URL last night (see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9616643) but forgot to change the headline as well. (It was "Jawbone sues Fitbit for stealing its talent and trade secrets".)
Stealing planning documents is another thing but I am quite surprised that it's okay to leave your company and work for the competition two days later.
What a lot of companies attempt to do is put in anti-compete clauses in to the civil employment contract.
They are often unenforceable or if they are they are heavily time limited unless a large financial incentive is provided to balance the loss of earnings.
If your contract only says "Not allowed to work in the field for X month after leaving" and there is no compensation, it's toilet paper.
BTW Freedom to work for whoever you chose is on one the rights laid down in the Universal Declaration of Human rights.
and I think its implied in the US constitution
It's called desertion and threatened with the death penalty.
What you're saying is true in many places in the EU. It's very sad.
Contract law is very simple in most of the EU. The most you can hope for here is non-disclosure.