Africa's Worst New Internet Censorship Law Could Be Coming to South Africa
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Until recently many South African Apple device owners had Kenya accounts to buy games (including most educational content) because of the Board's refusal to allow South African App Store games without rating every game itself (eventually they relented).
Home Affairs, which also handles citizenship and immigration, is a mess, and has made the South African passport worthless thanks to rampant corruption and incompetence (historically anyway- corruption may be improving a bit, but the damage is done).
Their latest trick: to require burdensome documentation from international travelers with children ostensibly to combat child trafficking (because of by dubious data from a lobby group that caught a Minister's ear). It's expected to severely dent the Sputh African tourism industry.
TlDr: Even if these proposed censorship regulations come to pass, it is unlikely that they will have much of an effect thanks to the incompetence of the would-be censors.
I think history has shown us that it's rarely a good idea to assume that people will remain incompetent, that puppet dictators will remain puppets, etc.
There still are huge bottlenecks in dealing with "refugee" claims, and with the legal immigration processes, and the legacy of past corruption (last 25 years) is still haunting South Africa. Based on overall performance, I think "incompetent" is still a fair characterisation.
The sa government has a very mediocre understanding overall of how the technology that makes up the Internet works and likes to propose rather broad and technically unfeasable laws that inevitably are either ignored or eventually abandoned.
It wasn't that long ago that they expected any isp to be keeping packet logs of any traffic through thier network for a period of five years on the off chance that the police might need it. It took a fair bit of back and forth to get them to realize how absurd such an approach was.
I would expect that if this does come to pass and youtube is blocked etc, that even the most naïve user will suddenly discover what a vpn is and life will continue. ( never underestimate the technological capability of someone , including your grandmother, to find a way to watch thier cat videos on the Internet )
The idea here is: reasoning does not work. You reason for good things, against stupid laws, but you have no leverage. We'll have to walk thru pain, "fear and loathing", most of those laws will be passed somewhere, in a few years or decades they'll prove to not work. Then they will be gradually repelled. Now there will be leverage: "this law was tried in a country CCC and it went sour".
We humans actually suck at designing something (like laws). Our only bet is evolution. You can't reason. You can only show. So we'll have to try ideas even when it's obvious they're stupid.
Yeah because that worked so well with the example of alcohol prohibition, really taught us a lesson about drug laws ;D
Africa is a continent that consists of at least 54 separate countries. It is like asking "Who is the president of Europe".
If there were no context (not the situation with this post), then it could lead to confusion.
Not exactly. The true size of Africa:
http://static02.mediaite.com/geekosystem/uploads/2010/10/tru...
Secondly, freedom of speech is a fundamental issue and not a luxury. I'm sure per-capita GDP in the US was lower when the Bill of Rights was written than it is in SA today. In fact, all problems anywhere in Africa are political. Strengthening the freedom of expression is one of the best ways to get at Africa's problems.
But yes, this seems appropriate.
As others have mentioned if this actually became legitimate it would mean nothing. They have nobody to police this.
- small size
- decentralized/local government structure
- limited geopolitical influence
- high level of education of the population
- history/culture of democracy
Large, powerful states with a lesser educated population will inevitably drift towards totalitarianism over time. This implies the use of various means of population control, with total surveillance being first and foremost.
How about India?
Don't treat states or societies as people, they are not people rather they are made of people. Totalitarianism isn't the outcome of a system it rather the outcome of the people oppress and the cowards who do nothing to stop it.
Sure, at the National political level, it's a democracy.
But there are several issue that allow citizens of some lesser democratic states enjoys more freedom in some cases... (it's very un-even though)
Religious rights, women's rights... Or the amount of power that some have at the local level (cast issues, landowners, etc..).
Any country left that actually cares about freedom, other than Germany?
A lot of people will pretend that porn is about freedom, that selling sex is about freedom, that selling drugs is about freedom... And while you can make arguments for all those things, that's not to say that any kind of legislation by definition is "anti-freedom". Legislation can be a means to enforce freedoms too.
Last time I checked (5 minutes ago), we didn't. (german speaking)
"DER VERRAT – BND und Bundesregierung gegen deutsche Interessen"
(in english: "THE TREASON – BND and federal government vs. German interests")
you really can’t say the country cares about freedom :/