Wow, crazy timing. We interviewed Fred at Rainforest on the Talking Code podcast – and that interview launches tonight at midnight (PDT).

I'm going back through and picking out my favorite quotes right this moment in preparation for the episode launch. Some of my favorites:

"How did we get to the place where the generally accepted best practice is not very good?" (referring to automated testing)

"The visual representation is only somewhat semi linked to the actual underlying code that represents it."

"A really good QA person can actually start to QA the requirements themselves."

"Good QA people are the customer before the customer."

"Shipping a bug at Facebook scale is pretty catastrophic."

"For tiny company X, a YC company, shipping a bug – while painful – is not going to be the end of the world."

"For 95% of people, QA is not a competitive advantage, so it doesn’t make sense to have it in house."

This has honestly been one of my favorite interviews ever, and I'm just really lucky it happened on my own podcast.

http://talkingcode.com/podcast/episode-6-fred-stevens-smith/