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Going one level up: https://github.com/Microsoft

Good to see Microsoft having 100 plus open source projects out there!

I wonder how this will stack up against Jetbrains PyCharm. I am always amazed at what the guys at how excellent PyCharm is, maybe Microsoft can do even better.

There's a lot of common ground feature-wise, but both also have their strong points. PyCharm's biggest one is that it's cross-platform, but also good integration with GAE and AWS, and neat features such as Cython editing. PTVS, on the other hand, is Windows-only, but has neat stuff like debugging Python and C++ side by side: https://github.com/Microsoft/ptvs/wiki/Mixed-Mode-Debugging

I was going to mention this, but didn't find the page. This is really neat. Not sure what other IDE's let you do that with Python.

From personal experience, I've used both I have to say:

Python Tools for Visual Studio is one of Microsoft's "best kept secrets" is how I describe it. I would say they're both exactly well-built solutions. If you have Visual Studio I highly recommend you give it a shot, it's really well defined in my opinion. It also has a plethora of features[1]. However, when I'm on Linux I usually use PyCharm.

[1] https://github.com/Microsoft/PTVS/wiki/Features-Matrix

The problem with this is that it's an add-on to a bloated behemoth that takes 10 GB and a reboot to install and nearly that much memory to run. PyCharm has a lot going for it simply by being not that.

I wonder if Microsoft is working on a cross-platform version of Visual Studio. Anyone has any experience running it on OS X using Parallels or similar?

Or is Visual Studio Code the philosophical successor to Visual Studio? Anyone familiar enough with Microsoft to elaborate?

Visual Studio works fine in a VM. I've used it in VMware and Parallels. I like the overall integration better in Parallels, but either one will do.

Visual Studio Code is a completely different product that happens to (confusingly!) share the same name.

Exactly visual studio code and visual studio they have almost same name , nothing else , visual studio code is on top of web technology (as far as I know) , something like Bracket , Atom. But Visual Studio have completely different software stack/

I understand that they are different and yet share some of the same tools that drive the analysis and autocompletion (?).

I'd just like to understand how they compare from a product strategy point of view going forward in case anyone knows.

I have had this question in mind too,but I think this not going anywhere.because for example visual studio extension development is in C#( am I right?).So using managed code base in something related to web , I think is almost impossible.

I use Visual Studio (2010 & 2013) in VirtualBox on a customized MacBook Pro (with SSD) for developing Windows Phone applications as a hobby. It runs very well and fast and it is usable on a daily basis. On an hard disk drive it was a bit too slow for being confortable.

But there are also some annoying VM freezings related to the USB port, which sometimes forces me to force quite the VM with the task manager because even VirtualBox can't terminate the instance.

Does this work with Visual Studio Community 2013?

VS2013 Community is really VS2013 Professional with different licensing. Any VS2013 Professional addon will also work in VS2013 Community.

I don't know the answer to this question, but my understanding is that you don't need a paid version of Visual Studio

it does. in fact, that is the default recommendation, ie PTVS installed into Community Edition:

https://github.com/Microsoft/PTVS/wiki/PTVS-Installation

Thanks. Excellent Wiki. Kudos to Christopher Wilcox.

Aww, I hoped this was for Code :(

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