Unless You Are Spock, Irrelevant Things Matter in Economic Behavior
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But when you think about it more, you can see some troubling trends of petty bureaucrats trying to control your life through nudging. The most offensive example that comes to mind is politicians in the UK trying to convince ISPs to (by default) block adult content because, you know, think of the children [0]. Of course you could call your ISP and remove the block so what's the concern, right?
Be ready to give up ever more and more autonomy through slight manipulation all backed up by intellectuals tearing down Homo economicus straw-men.
[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_Unit...
I would be concerned with any discussion of that idea that is unaccompanied by a discussion of public choice. Discussing the "right government policy" is interesting, but not very useful without also discussing whether we're more like to get the right government policy than the wrong one.
As for the government acting in people's best interest, yes, exactly, that's what it's for. You are calling your state rep to discuss issues, right? If you're articulate, you can probably even book a 15-minute meeting to chat with them and tell them what's important to you, a citizen in their district.
That's not as fun as posting hur-hur-gubmint-sucks on the internet, though, even though it's definitely more rational and self-interested.
I would argue that debate on online forums is much more meaningful. I wouldn't go as far as to say someone's one comment really changed my mind on a big issue but reading discussions on forums like hn has certainly opened up my mind.
The most promising aspect of new technology is that it is being done outside of the traditional power structure, rendering politics less and less meaningful to our every day lives.
As the Chinese proverb goes, "Heaven is high and the emperor is far away"
I did consider going to local council meetings in my home town of New York City, but (without exception) every meeting takes place between late morning to early afternoon on a weekday so I am unable to attend [0]. It might be coincidental, but that kind of scheduling doesn't exactly scream out inclusion for average citizens. Maybe I'm just cynical. If you look at some of the minutes, it's incredibly dull and menial. I randomly selected Council Chambers - City Hall Jointly with the Committee on Consumer Affairs from 5/1:
1. A Local Law to amend the administrative code of the city of New York, in relation to the promotion of health and safety at nail salons. (NY Times article drummed up some controversy. Perhaps if they were to talk about immigration policy and extending more rights to undocumented workers, it would be interesting but from what I hear, this will amount to a shake-down and publicity event)
2. A Local Law to amend the administrative code of the city of New York, in relation to requiring the posting of information related to services offered at licensed appearance enhancement businesses. (Yelp probably does a better job at this)
3. Resolution calling upon the New York State Legislature to pass, and the Governor to sign, legislation amending the general business law to require periodic retraining of persons licensed to practice appearance enhancement and the Department of State to increase the number of health and safety inspectors who inspect appearance enhancement businesses. (More regulation of hair salons because, you know, public safety of getting a bad perm)
4. Resolution calling upon the New York State Legislature to pass, and the Governor to sign, legislation amending the General Business Law to authorize the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene to enforce State health and safety regulations against appearance enhancement establishments and to allow the Department to create a letter grading system for these establishments. (Letter grading hair salons? Really?)
Maybe it's just a New York or US thing. But I personally lost faith in the democratic process for all but the absolutely most mundane and necessary processes required to run a locality.
Your city councilperson isn't going to care about internet security; what could they do about it even if they did? They are going to care about that boring, mundane shit involved in supporting the wide variety of businesses and citizens in a city. Hair salons are important to a lot of people, even if they're not important to you.
Your state rep might have more to say about internet security or privacy or something, but if they're not actively involved, then you can't just go in and say "This is important, do this." Look for other politicians who are pushing privacy regulations for your state, and bring that to the attention of the politicians.
Also, phone, don't email. They've all got a staff of one to several people responding to emails for them, and those people are all so busy that, if you want to build a rapport with them (to eventually be able to set up a 5-minute meeting with the representative in question!), the phone is the way to go.
And remember: what's in it for them, if they're meeting with you? Are you informing them about one person's opinion? Do you represent 150 of your colleagues in NYC tech? Are you speaking on behalf of a trade organization, and these views are important to many voters, not just you?
Yes, this all takes time. If you want to have an impact with the political route, you may have to reprioritize how you spend your free time.
A paternalistic approach isn't necessarily a bad thing if you're being guided through decisions with the benefit of someone else's experience. It helps avoid spending mental effort on decisions which don't matter as much, so utmost attention can be given to those which do.
And there's nothing wrong with those. Things can and do progress to worse outcomes all the time.
>Social Security has been around for a long time, and although folks said it would lead directly to a socialist overthrow of American democracy, it hasn't happened...
Probably because the US has some of the worst, and less socialist, social security system in the West.
"Socialism is a social and economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy,[1][2] as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the establishment of such a system."
Cuba and North Korea are properly Socialist.
The US is a market, welfare Democracy like the rest of the developed world.
> There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them.
The wikipedia article also contains this apt observation:
"The term socialist has also been used by some politicians on the political right as an epithet against certain individuals who do not consider themselves to be socialists, and against policies that are not considered socialist by their proponents."
There's all kinds of nudging I'm sure you can get behind, such as opt-out organ donation. Or would you rather everyone be forced to donate their organs at brain-death?
Since "nudging" is rather new, there are many more opportunities for it to benefit society, either by discouraging a popular behavior or encouraging an unpopular one. For example, I despise loud cars and motorcycles. They have crazy externalities, yet there are few laws regarding them (and even those are rarely enforced). A Harley[1] riding through a dense city can distract and annoy thousands of people. Bystanders can even have their hearing permanently damaged. Some of my friends wish they were banned. I'm more sensitive to noise than most, but I disagree. A tax commensurate to their damage would satisfy everyone. Granted, such a tax would be quite steep. But if someone really wanted to, they could pay it. That's the sort of nudging I can get behind.
1. I realize not all Harleys are obnoxiously loud and many other vehicle brands can be annoying. It's just a stereotypical example.
Giving some thought to how they impact behavior and how one might improve them seems like a pretty low bar.
In particular the private sector spends hundreds of billions of dollars to nudge you towards a lifestyle that's more profitable for them, via ads to get you to eat unhealthy foods, buy a premium vodka that's indistinguishable from the next one on the shelf, not to mention gamble, smoke, etc.
Someone comes along to study these polluted waters and ask why the fish are so unhealthy and the fish say, "what's water?"
Let's not even study this stuff, since God forbid the gummint varmints use it to, I dunno, get people to save for retirement by default or sign up as organ donors, those bastards.
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Be very careful of the idea that "nudges" from the government means they are correct.
Right now we have the whole gluten thing, and while it might not affect you personally, a non-governmental nudging is changing millions of people's diet to something more expensive for no good reason what so ever. So it's not like the government has a monopoly and poor health advice.
Think about the shape of earth or the theory of gravity. It isn't truly round nor was Newton fully correct but both theories were more correct than their predecessors and we improved on them since. And probably will improve more in the future.
The fact that science isn't perfect doesn't mean it is useless - compare it to medicine. The fact that in complicated cases no two doctors would pic the exact same therapy does neither mean it makes no difference (there certainly are ways to do things wrong in medicine) nor that there is no way to judge. It is 'just' complicated.
My point is that just because a "nudge" is coming from the government is no reason to believe it is correct, free from bias, has no ulterior motives, or is applicable to everyone.
So, is studying diet and medicine and coming up with peer-reviewed consensus recommendations a terrible idea?
People who followed that food pyramid would probably be better off than the average.
I just think margarine is kind of a second-order problem, and you fix it, do better research and change the recommendation and work on more/better research.
I kind of worry about folks who spend their days working on adtech to nudge people, wearing fitbits to nudge them to get up and walk around, saying OMG a nudge in the direction of the food pyramid is a slippery slope to insidious government mind control. If anybody should know the power of defaults and good UX to help people make better choices, it's people around here.
I also worry about 300lb people in electric scooters, saying hands off my Big Gulp, I'm losing my freedom because somebody is trying to show calorie counts and reduce portion sizes and 'nudge' me.
I realize this is the setup for No True Scotsman, but are there any "serious" economists who actually believe the things this article criticizes? I hear these criticisms a lot, and I'm sure there are plenty of people who appeal to these simplifications to support a particular political belief, but from what I have read of modern economics (including some heterodox schools), economists don't operate under these assumptions. The criticisms get more bizarre throughout the article:
> Economists create this problem with their insistence on studying mythical creatures often known as Homo economicus. ... An Econ would not expect a gift on the day of the year in which she happened to get married, or be born.
That example doesn't even make sense in the context of the Homo economicus criticisms. A perfectly rational person who is aware of the custom of giving gifts for important anniversaries absolutely would expect a gift on those days. They'd probably give gifts as well. There's nothing irrational about that.
This is meaningless. Insofar as many models in economics are based on the rational choice model, the definition of a rational actor is one who acts to maximize their experienced utility with perfect knowledge of how their actions will affect their experience utility.
Anything that will affect a persons happiness would affect the decisions of a rational actor.
Now, its true that, even so, reality is known not to comply with the rational actor model, but this article misses most of them and attacks a giant strawman. And I wonder why, because as a professor of economics, the author has to know that, its not plausibly a mistake of ignorance.
> Of course, most economists know that the people with whom they interact do not resemble Econs. In fact, in private moments, economists are often happy to admit that most of the people they know are clueless about economic matters. But for decades, this realization did not affect the way most economists did their work. They had a justification: markets. To defenders of economics orthodoxy, markets are thought to have magic powers.
But I think this criticism is invalid as well, based on what I have read of economics. It seems like few economists believe markets solve all societal problems, even among the notoriously pro-market schools, like Chicago and the very heterodox Austrian.
They might not think they solve "all societal problems" but they still think they solve too many of them.
Plus, if you take away those crude models, most of the edifice of modern economics crumbles, and what's left is a dismal science that's no more scientific than astrology.
Believe them maybe not, and in their more theoritical papers and private company, they would admit not believing those.
But the effective guidance they give to governments, and their arguments in policy issues, are all taken from crude models like those.
And those are also the same models preached by economists to the general public, and which inform the way the people think about economics.
For example, the reason why many countries tax income in brackets, with increasing percentage is the realization that a dollar is not worth the same as a dollar. Which stated this way, seems quite irrational.
But if you have $0 then $10 is probably a big deal. If you have $100,0000 it probably isn't. So the pain incurred by taking more if the top is smaller, then taking less of the bottom.
Giving gifts is a destruction of value. Rarely can the gift giver buy a thing of same utility as the gift receiver could for the same money (given both are econs). Therefore the whole gift giving society is irrational.
The rational model is much, much simpler, which is why it is inadequate. Which is the whole point of the article.
According to the rational model, the best you can ever hope to do is give your mother a gift of utility X, but most likely you will give her one of less than X. Your mother being rational can always choose to buy the thing with the most utility to her and therefore it is better to give her cash.
All the other things you are adding are part of what is called behavioural economics. That doesn't mean they are irrational, or even not rational.
But in economic theory, it is fairly new addition, and it is not incorporated throughout economic theory.
But the nomenclature stays.
This guarantees them publishable results: either you get "humans not rational!" or "rational behavior leads to bad result!" no matter what the subjects do.
My experience is like yours: I've read a decent amount of economics stuff, and nothing that didn't have an axe to grind about the subject of rational actors itself ever proposes the kind of broken rationality models that the pop behavior economics stuff claims every economist believes.
They have to decide under time pressure whether this is a good teacher or a bad one, easy grader or hard, fair or unfair, etc. The students have to combine what they know about the mechanics of the grading scale, with their own internal information about whether they trust this guy -- especially if it's before the deadline for dropping the class. Introducing an unorthodox or weird grading scale could influence this judgment. The students may have a rational interest in nudging teachers towards a more favorable grading system.
I have a couple of major misgivings about psycho-economics. First, any empirical failure of theory could be blamed on irrational behavior, when the theory itself is wrong for other reasons. We might just not be considering all of the information that people have at their disposal. Likewise, psychology could be blamed for any failure of economic policy, or of entire economies.
Second, deciding who is capable of rational decision making, based on sex, race, or social class, has a long and sorry history. I'd rather let economics be the study of that which can be understood based on the behavior of rational actors, and put bigger error bars around the predictive ability of economic models.
If you are poor, you must have just bought too many gifts, or refused to live in a house share with 5 other people, or took the bus instead of cycling to work, and so on.
You didn't act entirely rationally, and so you 'deserve' to be poor.
It seems hilarious when phrased in those terms but this sort of thing happens _all the time_. Especially because some people are capable, either by repression of emotion (stoicism) or by deference to authority (it's always been this way...) of jumping through these hoops.
If we modeled the world in a reasonable way we'd discover how horrible it really is. The fact we don't is part of the cognitive dissonance that surrounds us.
(Nudging has been mentioned lower down here - yet another example of a statistical calculation that completely overlooks individual plight, one that treats the populace as a flock to be herded...)