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Isn't that still missing the point? We don't want to be spied on period, whether there are things to hide or not.

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We need to get comfortable with the fact that having things to hide does not make us guilty, criminal, or unethical.

Whether it's dick pictures, political views, or associations with questionable NSA targeted groups like UNICEF[1].

I argue that it's our responsibility to hide things to support freedom and democracy.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/05/22/nsa_gchq_...

I firmly disagree. Hiding things is a hack; the actual solution is to change society such that exposure entails no significant consequences.

Sure, as a band-aid to make existing real people feel secure? Hiding things and keeping them hidden is fine. It's just an indicator of how far we as a society still have to go.

Do remember: "it's our responsibility to hide things to support freedom and democracy" is the exact argument used by the government against things like Wikileaks. The exact argument.

I'm not sure I follow your logic. So are you saying if we were a further advanced society people could have sex a crowded bus or restaurant and we should just all accept it and not expect them to get some privacy?

I'm not suggesting anyone should be ashamed of sex. I am suggesting that most people want that moment to be private and even those that around them want them to keep it private as well.

If you don't think that people having sex in public should be ashamed, why did you bring it up?

"Do remember: "it's our responsibility to hide things to support freedom and democracy" is the exact argument used by the government against things like Wikileaks. The exact argument."

The government does not have the right to privacy, we do. And exercising that right is well doing something we have the right to do.

Exercising free speech is good. Don't you think?

Your suggestion is like arguing that we needn't worry about food production because we could have Star Trek replicators.

I would very much like to live in your utopia, but until then we have to handle the reality:

http://np.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/1fv4r6/i_believ...

I would love to know your thoughts on how to deal with our current situation.

It is the response to the argument that "If you don't have something to hide, you shouldn't mind having your rights trampled on" with the attendant presumption that anyone with something to hide must be a criminal or a T7t.

T7t? I'm not familiar with that term and my Google-fu is apparently not strong enough.

Like i18n or l10n: nine-letter word, starts and ends with "t", rhymes with "bogey man."

Edit: and no, I've never seen this particular abbreviation.

Terrorist (It's like i18n stands for internationalization, )

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