How to Beat a Polygraph Test
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The polygraph was administered by a strange guy from a three letter agency. I did the sphincter squeeze for every question. He said the test showed I was being deceptive. I thought that was the end of it and hoped my boss would leave me alone about it. But they called me back to do another one. This time I didn't do the sphincter squeeze. He said the test showed I was being deceptive. I don't know. I think the test just showed I didn't want to get a clearance.
"Looks like you are telling the truth.." (even if it shows otherwise)
If you look relieved or surprised, this might be something that they can use at a later date or further along in the interview. Polygraphs are 100% interpretation, they are not binary by any means.
A standard polygraph trick is to switch it off, and then have a casual interview during the middle of the test. Then they claim they never switched it off and you've been lying the whole time as your casual results differ on the magic box. Props tend to work to get people to trip up on their replies even if the prop is just a box that randomly scribbles on paper with absolutely zero scientific credibility.
Unfortunately, we still use them as part of a hazing ritual to get clearance for national defense projects. But the poster upthread is probably right that those kinds of projects aren't the ones you want to be working on anyways.
For instance the interrogator says, "the polygraph says you're hiding something from me, are you sure there isn't something you want to get off your chest."
The should however, be banned completely because the false positives are so high that we are crippling many of the agencies that rely on them. We're forcing them to drastically reduce their potential talent pool based on pseudo science.
Even worse than that, it selects for people who lie with impunity without any visible or emotionals qualms about it -- basically it selects for psychopaths.
http://www.polygraph.com/media
And, if you are interested in more, read these essays:
http://www.polygraph.com/index.php?i-don-t-teach-countermeas...
http://www.polygraph.com/index.php?the-lie-detector-is-bulls...
And yes, I am the Doug Williams who is the subject of this article...
Case in point, Snowden would have most likely had to undergo at least one of these polygraph tests for the cleared work he did and that didn't exactly prevent anything. Plus, people that are pathological liars can essentially convince themselves that something is the truth which these tests would rarely, if ever, pick up on as deception.
Secondly, a lot of nervous nellies fail, even though they're squeaky clean. For a lot of the work where the tests are used you really do want to exclude people who can't keep their cool under a bit of pressure. If you freak out under the kind of questioning done, you're probably going to freak out in a way that reveals information if somebody starts asking about your work.
>For a lot of the work
For a tiny fraction of the work. Maybe you underestimate the number of jobs that use this quackery.
My point is that to some extent this is actually a necessary skill. You absolutely don't want people who can't keep cool and put out a bit of smokescreen and do some hand waving.
The polygraph foremost is a way to arbitrarily filter people for reasons that interviewer would rather not reveal, and secondly to select for people willing to put up with the theatrics of procedures while being indifferent to their supposed purpose.
That... That was beautiful!
My alternative would be to trick my mind into not lying despite the question asked. So if I was asked "do you live in Chicago?" (i don't) and I wanted to answer yes, I would simply internally ask myself "is your name loteck?" and then respond "yes."
I would ignore the actual question asked by the interviewer except to the extent I need to pick which internal question I would ask myself, of which I would only have 2. One for yes responses and one for no.
Anybody have any idea if this would work?
Don't think most people are that good at controlling their emotions, even if the question in your head is different you still know what the intimidating investigator actually wants to know.
In the contexts in which polygraphs are applied (i.e. security clearance, witch hunts within security services), simply being suspicious in this way is enough to cause the negative outcome (i.e. not getting the clearance, getting fired), so even if it might muddy the evaluation of your response to, i.e. "Are you a Russian spy?" it would still cause the negative outcome.
It has no bearing on criminal prosecution, because polygraphs are already inadmissible.
To my mind that is a simple test that disproves the effectiveness of the tool. It should cause a reasonable person to conclude that the tool doesn't work and should not be used.
But it is likely to cause an FBI-drone to conclude that you are attempting to beat the polygraph and therefore untrustworthy.
Maybe the machine isn't meant to do anything, and it's the examiner judging whether you are lying based on how your react to its presence.
"Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you keep it a secret! Why didn't you tell the world, Eh?"
Benway's panopticon only functions if the inmates think they are watched. The secret might be that they cannot actually process all the data and are overwhelmed by the sheer quantity of it, in which case the surveillance is more useful if people think they can.
Parent is getting at the fact that it is entirely possible to have a Top Secret clearance and never be granted access to any interesting information.
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Any question that can be trivially checked such as "Do you live in Chicago?" is not one of the "control questions". Questions like that are part of the theater for the benefit of the person being tested. Like the waving needles, it makes the test look more complicated and "scientific" (really: "it's complicated" and therefor "magic" in the sense of Clarke's 3rd Law).
The article has an actual example of a typical control question: “Have you ever lied to anyone who trusted you?”. Unfortunately, their explanation that "...an innocent person telling the truth will have a stronger reaction to the control questions..." misses the point entirely.
Control questions are always about a "little white lie" that the examiner assumes is something that everybody does. The important thing to understand about the real "control questions" is the assumption that you will lie when you answer those questions. In the question from the article, the assumption is that of course you have lied to someone who trusted you, but you will say "no" out of fear.
The "theory" is then to look for a difference (ANY difference, not just a "stronger reaction") in the polygraph output for that question when compared to most of the rest of the questions. This is then used as a reference to see if something similar happens on a real interrogation question.
Want to mess with the test? Don't lie on the control questions. Admit to the "little white lies" they assume are said by everybody. This will usually do two things: 1) it will invalidate the test, and 2) it will piss off the examiner. Obviously, the utility of forcing these results will depends on why you're taking the test.
If instead you want to do the opposite and "pass" the test without suspicion, remember you're being recorded from the moment the sensors are put on. Make sure their machine records regular (small standard deviation) data except for when you give the expected lie. If they see the expected "change" on the correct "little white lie" (control) questions, and not much anywhere else, that should be seen as a "pass".
Or even better, don't perpetuate this nonsense and refuse to take any polygraph tests.
Maybe. Tactics aimed at fooling the machine are really only to bolster the confidence of the person being tested. It's not the case that you're playing against a machine though, the machine doesn't "do" anything; it's a game that you're playing against the examiner.
I think what I'm getting at is that the notion of "cheating" or "beating" a polygraph seems like it dignifies the procedure. It's a little like "beating" a psychic medium, isn't it?
It's better than "beating" a psychic medium because there is often a real, valuable prize to be gained (ie: a job).
As far as I am concerned, even submitting to examination dignifies the procedure too much.
To be clear: I don't think you do need those tactics, but I'm asking, not asserting; I've never taken a polygraph.
It also sounds like polygraphers may think they are reading someone, but in actuality just injecting their own bias. I have also never taken a polygraph, but maybe the process to beat is the bias of the interviewer, not the machine.
I mean, measuring perspiration, pulse, breathing, and movement is perhaps a step above a Magic 8 Ball. I too am entirely doubtful that anyone can reliably detect deceit with those measurements, but it's hard to have a nonchalant attitude of "this is just a silly game" when you're connected to devices that do in fact actually measure those things.
To succeed in the situation your mind must be prepared to deal with the gun or the handcuffs or the polygraph. I doubt many people are able to simply ignore them.
In fact they try to check for it. Like they might say things like "it looks like you pizza-ed on this one when you should-a frenchfried, ... hmm that's interesting'. Where say "pizza" and "frenchfry" are polygraph specific terminilogy. If you don't ask "hey what does that mean?" they might assume your read up on and research about how to beat polygraphs.
And on your point of "what if I really don't believe in polygraphs". The problem is the polygraph measures involuntary emotional response. You might rationally not believe in efficacy of polygraphs. But emotionally you'd start breathing faster anyway. Maybe because you are afried the polygraph examiner will figure out that you really know how polygraphs work.
Curious.. Why so sure?
Even if my strategic goal is to show that a polygraph is meaningless, being able to pass or fail one at will could be really useful to that end.
The odds seem pretty low that any job or clearance requiring a polygraph would let you get by without one, even if you displayed an extensive knowledge of them and how they're flawed. Personally, if acting on principle, I'd probably just not want to work at a place like that to begin with. Of course, I'm sure there are some highly sought after individuals that could get by with that, and it probably depends on whether or not the organization you're engaging with views the polygraph seriously or as a relic on its way out.
If it were something to do with legal proceedings, I'd have to talk to a lawyer first, and see what was in my best interest.
As far as term semantics go (which I think are important), maybe "manipulating" would be a better word than "beating" or "cheating"
edit: The sibling poster also has a really good point about everyone possibly knowing it's a sham, but using it as a tool to get rid of people they want to get rid of. That might be more likely than all my speculation
I'm keying in on things like "being able to pass or fail [a polygraph]". "Able" to "pass" or "fail"? Would you say the same thing about being able to pass or fail a psychic palm reading?
I feel like I'm missing something, which is why I keep asking.
Well, yeah, wouldn't you? I mean, the fact that you're being given a polygraph implies that your interrogator believes it has some effect that benefits them. And if you're completely convinced that that isn't true, meaning the human-with-polygraph is not more reliable than an unaided human, that still leaves the possibility that the human-with-polygraph is worse in a way that affects you.
If there's a possibility for the device to convince your interrogator that you're being deceptive, but you're honest, you're taking a risk unless you attempt to avoid causing a false positive. Conversely, if there's a possibility for the device to convince your interrogator that you're being truthful, and you're deceitful, you're missing out on an advantage unless you attempt to cause a false negative.
There's no case where your interrogator is better off, so your premise isn't invalidated; the polygraph itself is still bunk. But it's your interrogator's trust in it which has created a relative advantage for you if you play along.
The exact same applies if they show up with a "psychic", although it might be harder -- or easier -- to manipulate.
Say they ask you "have you engaged in homosexual behavior, especially under the age of 14?" Most people I know, given the situation, will blush. And blushing is basically all a polygraph can actually measure. So now they start berating you that you lied, and if you continue to insist you didn't lie about that particular question, they say it means you lied about a previous one.
The only way to pass a polygraph is to know what they are like and just get through it. Honest people and liars both just need to stick to their stories, regardless of what the polygraph is saying, because eventually they will just fail you and schedule you for another one. Repeat until you've been through it so many times it doesn't phase you anymore. Then their job is done, their job being, "it wasn't my fault if you turn out to be a spy."
Is where I'm going with this clear? I feel like I'm just confusing everyone with this line of questions.
I'm literally just asking:
If I was given a polygraph tomorrow, knowing what I know now (in fact having conviction about what I know about polygraphs), wouldn't a reasonable strategy be to ignore any polygraph-specific advice, and manage the process the same way I would if there was a Magic 8 Ball adjudicating it?
I know there are differences between the plastic toy and the fortune-telling billiard-ball, but are they meaningful?
We went through his questions 3 times. The first time I just answered his questions, no games. The second time I tried to change my anxiety level sort of randomly (I had some experience with pretty high-end biofeedback equipment and knew how to affect the readings somewhat). The third time I used a breathing exercise that I was taught by a zen master to minimize my anxiety as much as possible.
The polygraph operator was pissed, I decided that I had no desire to work for people who thought that was a good use of 45 minutes, and I didn't get the job.
Everybody won, I guess.
Obviously I would just try to be more nervous at the control questions, to establish a baseline that wouldn't make the lies stand out. I'd imagine I'm lying on the control questions.
What I would find difficult with each of these tricks, is that you have to execute them during control questions, and not during "real" questions.
Keeping track of when to clench or not while simultaneously trying to keep reality, and one's deceptions straight seems like it would be extremely hard to do under even mild pressure.
http://www.amazon.com/Detecting-Lies-Deceit-Pitfalls-Opportu...
It was really interesting when I read it, though it's a bit old now, so I'm not sure how much of the material needs to be updated.
This is often forgotten. In so many situations in life, people think they must make a choice being forced on them, "yes or no" or something similar.
Quite often the best choice is not to not allow yourself to play that game. Instead, learn to "think outside the box".
He said put a thumb tack in your shoe, and when asked each question, step on the tack slightly, enough to cause pain. A lie registers as a blip, but so does pain. If every question has a blip, they cannot differentiate.
The examiner can just require subjects to remove their shoes.
I read this many times. Can you expand on how a detective ended up as a highschool student? Sounds like a fun story.
Should be
"One of my high school teachers..."