Marvel Avenged: From financial ruin to the biggest film franchise in history
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Audiences won't get bored as long as their are good stories to tell.
Based on a few 'superhero' examples, clearly, a reboot can work:
Box Office (in millions of dollars):
-Spiderman 2002: $821
-Spiderman 2012: $757
-Batman 1989: $411
-Batman Begins 2005: $374
-Hulk 2003: $245
-The Incredible Hulk 2008: $263
-Robocop 1987: $100
-Robocop 2014: $242
Then perhaps Wolverine can be true to the comic, womanizer and short 5'3''.
I, for one, like seeing the new heroes being introduced into the mix such as Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man. Marvel has a large number of characters to rely on that haven't been introduced into the cinematic universe. Just because they are relatively unknown doesn't mean it won't work. Guardians was considered a risk because most people had no idea what they were, yet it did big numbers at the box office.
These stories can be told endlessly if they are done correctly. Not all of Marvel's characters are super-powered beings and some of the normal characters have interesting stories to tell. Daredevil on Netflix is a good example of this. It didn't even feel like a typical Marvel enterprise until the suit came into play. Up to that point it was an interesting drama with occasional action pieces. Agents of Shield is another; stories about mostly ordinary people dealing with living in this new world of super-beings and gods.
Where comic book movies/shows go wrong is when they are created to be commercials for selling toys and the story comes second. So far, Marvel has avoided this. Hopefully DC can do the same. If telling the story is always the most important aspect, then these things can last a long time before they get boring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_X5C6e3ZeY
Shame it was never released. Apparently it was so bad they tried to erase it from history.
This isn't really that hard to avoid, you know? You just need someone with enough central authority to stop the writers from doing this. It's not clever or compelling storytelling, it's just complicated. Said central authority doesn't have to write the story, per se, just prevent this from happening.
I'd also observe there's abundant cinematic precedent for having to change actors, and the Hulk has already been changed without it being a reboot or "new character".
Handled carefully there's no reason this universe MUST become crufty, overpopulated, and stale. It's just... the natural thing that happens when you aren't careful.
And I have hope that they may be careful. One of the undercurrents of the article they never quite called out all the way is that the Hollywood blockbuster machine is broken. Look at how well Marvel is doing, and by and large, they're doing it on good, solid storytelling. Not uniformly across the board, no, but much better than the average blockbusters. Hollywood is apparently willing to pour millions upon millions into special effects but often appears to spend about "$5.12 + whatever the director has in his wallet" on story... or, more accurately, they treat the story like that's the investment they have in it. Marvel is not hitting it out of the park every time, but they clearly care more than the Hollywood machine. Right now, if there's anybody who can hold this all together without an endless series of reboots, it's the Marvel movie guys.
Why? For instance James Bond worked just fine with simply replacing whomever was playing Bond from time to time.
> You can only drag someone to see an origin story so many times.
But rebooting ends up simply retelling origin stories over and over. How many times do you need to tell how Superman (yes I know that's DC) or Batman (again, DC) or Spiderman became themselves, or how their villains became them.
Apparently it's every 10 years for Spiderman.
The actual actor for these parts shouldn't matter. That they play the character and in the continuity should. But maybe I'm missing something, I never really got into comic books.
I don't mind new actors, or re-boots. What I am worried about is 6 new movies coming out, and an origin story movie being half of them. Before it was one every 4-5 years, now it is one every two-years, pretty soon you get into a origin-movie-fatigue situation with two being made every year.
That could just be me, but who knows?
Here's to a thousand of copyright extensions more!
By the way, did you know that Marvel and DC jointly owns a trademark to the word "super-hero" and no other company can use it unless licensed?
No other company in the US. Toei uses that term all over the place in Japan, and Marvel and DC can't do anything about it.
Source?
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4809%3Aa...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Punisher_%281989_film%29
There was also a 1990 Captain America movie:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_America_%281990_film%29
(Which wouldn't technically be a contradiction, but the spirit of the line is that they weren't making movies then, not that they released the movie they made shortly after)
Children are marketed to and manipulated with cartoons and "happy meal" toys. It is insidious.
On top of that, Disney expends a tremendous amount of money on marketing to force their products into the prevailing culture. Have you noticed how many television shows have references to Marvel super heroes? Those jokes aren't because the writers are fans, Disney pays for them. Actors don't wear super hero t-shirts randomly. It's all marketing.
They are doing the same thing with Star Wars. There has been an insane amount of hype for the new movie and various spinoff products already. Quite frankly I am sick of it. I am not going to see the new Star Wars movie in theaters because this type of behavior should not be rewarded.
Disney buys up treasured parts of global culture and exploits them to death. It was heart breaking to see them do this to Pixar. Cars 2, Monsters University... just shameful cash ins.
To make matters worse, Disney doesn't even pay it's fair share of taxes on the massive income generated by these franchises: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30412293
The only thing that you can do is to vote with your dollars and time. Please stop supporting this exploitative behavior.
I happen to think CGI is the key element to make good comic book movies but despite how advanced it is now days, it's still not there yet. It's still too expensive to do it well, so it often gets half-assed and the cost also affects story lines, like less hulk, because hulk is expensive. The expense also affects greatly which characters they decide to bring into the stories at all.
One of the latest is a Netflix exclusive Daredevil which was just released and this week another season was ordered (I highly recommend watching it, HBO level production and violence and amazing fight scenes).
It seems Netflix will also be release a few other Marvel series going forward too.
http://screenrant.com/marvel-comics-movies-characters-carl-6...
Because they sold the rights of the X-men to Fox they can't use that character in their own movies. Same with Spiderman to Sony until recently (last month) where Sony is going to let Marvel use Spiderman in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and also produce future Spiderman movies (Sony was simply constantly rebooting Spiderman because of his limited stories and hasn't been able to expand the character and story too much with other characters).
Marvel has started getting back some of these characters, mostly by defaulting it back (studios are forced to release a movie every X years or the character goes back).
The Fantastic Four series, one of the longest running in comics, is ending shortly. Speculation is that it's because of Fox's ownership of the Fantastic Four film rights.
It's a slightly strong-arm tactic, but also in the best interest of Marvel's bottom line. Why publish comic books with characters that appear in movies that you don't own.
Had Sony not been hacked, they would likely still control Spider-Man.
That's not why they rebooted. Amazing Spider-Man came about because somebody at Sony realized the rights would revert back to Marvel if they didn't make another movie in a certain amount of time, and they didn't have the time to reassemble the old cast and find a point where everybody's schedule was clear, so they just went with an all-new cast.
Look at the 1978 Superman movie, for instance; the big selling point there was that "you will believe a man can fly!" Never mind all the other stuff Superman can do in the comics; it was stretching the boundaries of the possible just to show him flying in a way that was convincing to an audience.
The advent of affordable CGI removed those limitations, of course, but by the time that came along there had built up this huge well of untapped source material and a big audience that grew up reading comics for which seeing this stuff on screen is completely novel. Eventually one or the other will dry out, and superhero movies will go back to being just one genre among many.
If you're meaning his own characters, there is that. But from now on he can likely do whatever he feels like. I hope he decides to tell a new story with new characters in the Buffy universe.
I also started with Marvel. It's characters are grittier, more humane, and all their "real life" troubles make them extremely relatable (spiderman is the best example).
As an adult, I started to gravitate towards DC. Their characters are larger than life, almost perfect gods. They are not people, they are walking symbols. Only as an adult did I get Superman.
Apart from that, I've always liked Marvel better (especially the weird experimentations of Marvel UK like Death's Head I). They always felt more "real" to me (especially X-Men, which was somewhat political).
I've only really liked Batman because they aspired to make him an example of the perfect human being in every way. Except he's still human and the best Batman stories reflect that.
To me, anything that puts another creative agency on the field is a good thing; and they've obviously found demand and have a long term plan in play so I don't think they're going anywhere anytime soon.
(both have a lot more necessary digital effects and fantasy elements than the other comic book movies that were being produced at that time)
The Doom movie was only mostly taken seriously, but it made a real attempt at fleshing out a story rooted in the game, and at least wasn't hugely hindered by a limited budget.